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No_Measurement876 t1_j5er0vs wrote

A how to guide on how to decimate your working age population and ensure no one ever migrates to your country again, all in a nutshell.

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Historical-Top5564 t1_j5ffa7d wrote

a couple of years will pass and the cycle will repeat... hopefully im very wrong

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plipyplop t1_j5gljzs wrote

Depends on which newly formed satellite state they're from, after this is all over. Anything left in what's left of russia proper will: wash, rinse, and repeat.

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Different-General-23 t1_j5hdgez wrote

I can’t wait for Chechen war 3 accompanied by Dagestan 1. And then siberia realizing they benefit not at all. And in 10 years russia china war as the far east secedea

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valoon4 t1_j5h2ep0 wrote

Migrate? Hell I wouldnt even wanna go there as a tourist anymore

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Phatsackus t1_j5h2sgg wrote

What may have once been on the radar, has turned into Not a F#$king Chance!! EVER!

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Different-General-23 t1_j5hd4zx wrote

Russia: we’re the best place in the world and people are scrambling to be here. Reality: Um……..

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iordseyton t1_j5hl5eg wrote

Maybe a bunch of people should emigrate, then hold a referendum

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CanadianRaconteur t1_j5ebcf3 wrote

“According to Bekbolat, several Kyrgyz men "close to 60 years old" were sent to Ukraine despite their age.”

Grandparents to the frontlines..

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codydodd t1_j5f09su wrote

And Russia is forcing them. But to be honest, Ukraine's forces have quite a lot of older volunteers too, but the difference is they volunteered willingly and many of them vets from the now long conflict.

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nekonight t1_j5fke88 wrote

Those old Ukrainian vets aren't being used as cannon fodder but in training roles or leadership positions. And quite often those that aren't allowed to join are instead joining the local territorial defense. Got to remember Ukraine stop mobilization not because of the lack of manpower but the lack of training and equipment for them. In addition the shrinking front line mean they didn't want to pack more people in and make them easier targets. Russia doesn't care about any of those factors.

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codydodd t1_j5fl8t1 wrote

Super important distinctions thanks for this post.

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Hellno-world t1_j5go9bs wrote

Weren't men under 60 prevented from leaving ukraine? Are we sure they're all volunteers?

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codydodd t1_j5ib0c1 wrote

Yes, that was in case of the need for future mobilizations. Unlike Russia, it's quite easy to fact check because Ukraine welcomes tonnes of international corps. Not sure what you are getting at.

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czs5056 t1_j5em2u3 wrote

It would be crazy to share the same war stories of the same battle with your grandad.

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Dirty_Quesadilla t1_j5fjxa3 wrote

Well, you already had parents and their children deploying to combat zones in the mideast. This wasn’t a one time occurrence.

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simon1976362 t1_j5fypaa wrote

So now the frontlines need wifi for the kids and wheelchair access for elderly, brutal.

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DrBeerkitty t1_j5evt5t wrote

russia is looking at this war as both the opportunity to claim new territory and get rid of undesirables - it is a deeply racist and homophobic country.

We might be thinking that they are losing their most vulnerable male population (and they are - this will have a profound effect on their future) but they see it as a golden opportunity to get rid of all non-slavic people WHILE doing some conquering.

Being Ukrainian myself, I can say from personal experience, even in the Soviet Union - Ukrainians were considered 2nd class citizens, simple village type folks that can't really be smart and were constantly ridiculed by russians.

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ivandelapena t1_j5f123s wrote

This is why the Russian public are generally unsympathetic to the idea of Ukrainian independence. They can't imagine that Ukrainians are anything other than lower than Russians. This is why Putin cannot have an independent Ukraine, because it will inevitably become more successful than Russia and when Russians see that they'll realise they've been fed lies.

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DrBeerkitty t1_j5f29h0 wrote

One of the early cell intercepts of the invading russian troops calling home had this interesting episode -

This russian is calling his wife and is all very excited saying "OMG, their icecream is amazing, I ate like a kilo of it, so much better than ours! And you know what? Their villages all have asphalt roads and the houses, have you seen the houses? Lots of appliances in each of them! HOW DARE THEY LIVE BETTER THAN US!"

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flukshun t1_j5ffci9 wrote

I remember one occupied home tagged up with "you live so well, why do you fight then?" They can't accept that Ukraine doesn't owe all it's prosperity to the Russian Federation that's done nothing but constantly fuck them over.

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ComradeMoneybags t1_j5hsul6 wrote

Russia is basically crabs in a bucket personified. They can’t win, but the closest thing possible is to bring everyone down.

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jahsd t1_j5imp5x wrote

>when Russians see that they'll realise they've been fed lies

Baltics?

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tacticalcop t1_j5fsojn wrote

yeah im an american because of russia’s continued aggression towards my ancestors from ukraine, they’ve been doing this crap for so long

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aew360 t1_j5ih26c wrote

No wonder Tucker Carlson is in love with Russia

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nunziavaer543210 t1_j5ivla7 wrote

putin is use tucker like a sock puppet, he prefers to use trump, but hes pretty much unreliable until he becomes useful. he still has limited control over Lich MCONNEL though

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jahsd t1_j5imior wrote

"Unsesireables" have got they citizenship from Russia. If that's undesirables I'd like to know what desireables are.

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Mirathecat22 t1_j5ekuki wrote

If you surrender to Ukraine you could be sent home.

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autotldr t1_j5ed7b8 wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 89%. (I'm a bot)

> Some of the workers who have got Russian passports, and are eligible for the military draft, say they have been prevented from leaving Russia in recent weeks.

> Bekbolat, a Kyrgyz man who became a Russian citizen several years ago, said he was stopped by Russian border guards on December 22, 2022, when he tried to cross into Kazakhstan en route to Bishkek, the capital of Kyrgyzstan.

> It's not known how many naturalized Russian citizens from Kyrgyzstan and other Central Asian countries have been recruited to the Russian Army to fight in Ukraine.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russian^#1 citizen^#2 Russia^#3 Kyrgyz^#4 Ukraine^#5

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greenglasstree t1_j5fxpkr wrote

This is a double genocide. Russian supremacists want to simultaneously genocide Ukrainians and ethnic minorities within Russia.

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Ensho-Sai t1_j5en1i7 wrote

wonder why they’re being singled out…

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matinthebox t1_j5eqbu4 wrote

Because of the irony. These workers got Russian citizenship to have an easier life. Now it's their Russian citizenship that might get them sent to die.

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Ensho-Sai t1_j5gboww wrote

was trying to point out the obvious, but that works too

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jahsd t1_j5in1rc wrote

Kremlin is desperately looking for someone they can send to the frontline who's relatives won't make a fuss. It generally works with ethnic Russians but they're exploring other options.

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Due_Yam_3604 t1_j5ftw41 wrote

How to Cripple Your Country for Dummies, vol. 8

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BandicootHot4897 t1_j5ezien wrote

Canon fodder… so typical to use minorities over the children of Russian elite

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hibernating-hobo t1_j5h0cke wrote

“Going home…yesyesyes…HEY I KNOW, how about you returning to the people you love you just die horribly after freezing, starving, getting raped by your fellow soldiers and getting shot by your own because you finally broke and tried to bolt? Oh sorry, that was rhetorical, we shackled you during my spiel, now on the bus bullet sponge. I would say see you, but it’s doubtful anyone will…”

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Federal_Promotion_44 t1_j5j2rdy wrote

Pack a camping backpack with survival gear and fuel and hike out of Russia. There is plenty of wilderness to bypass checkpoints

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nonfiringaxon t1_j5kip5n wrote

They want to eliminate Turkic groups before they send more russian.

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jahsd t1_j6cr0up wrote

Still nothing about it in border crossing tracker and expat channel in Kyrgyzstan, not a single person mentioned it offline to me, plus there are a lot dual citizens, there should be a lot of stories like this. Most likely it's bullshit

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Tarapiitafan t1_j5gzb19 wrote

Why is this exactly news? They have russian citizenship.

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jahsd t1_j5in7iy wrote

Reportedly they've been kept in the country. That's not how the rest of the population is treated at the moment so this is big.

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Reggie_Barclay t1_j5i2449 wrote

I still don’t get it. I can’t imagine anything that would make me fight Canadians or Mexicans—certainly nothing involving annexation of land. And I was in the Army.

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schwanball t1_j5ev6j3 wrote

This is absolutely Kyrgyz!

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