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Electromotivation t1_j5knxtj wrote

Reply to comment by babydick18 in Germany: 5 charged with treason in suspected terror plot. Public prosecutors said the suspects had planned to create "civil war-like conditions" in Germany. They are also accused of plotting to kidnap the health minister by DoremusJessup

There was a window of time where it felt Russia could be economically brought into the modern world. But that window was a mirage based on rampant optimism and ignorance given what we (the public) has now gotten to know about Russia. But you expect the experts and those that engage in high-level geopolitics to have far better knowledge and judgement of the situations.

Safe to say your question is open-ended given examples like Putin actually believing his intelligence advisors about Ukraine, when obviously he has set up a situation where they would and could only tell him exactly what he wanted to hear.

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circularhorse t1_j5lfxvj wrote

It made perfect sense before 2014. But they kept pumping russian gas for almost a decade after annexation of Crimea that Germany oh so condemned. Even after 2022 invasion, any step away from being buddies buddies with russia came with a massive hesitation and resistance

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HDSpiele t1_j5t380y wrote

Germany thought they where engaging in a mutaly beneficial partnership where economics are seperate from poletics. This model can work but only if both partners are willing to play this game. Basicly no matter how dire the political situation gets the gas will flow as it benefits Russia and Germany equally but Russia the bastards that they are broke that unspoken agreement.

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