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tedderksen t1_j4u74ye wrote

If you're college educated and presumably living in America you're far better off than here. Low-paying jobs compared to cost of living, super high taxes. The Netherlands is only good if you have either no work or are higher class everything in between is fucked.

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twistedbronll t1_j4ub002 wrote

Thats soo not true. If anything skilled workers are by far the most needed. Builders, welders, electricians, metalworkers. These 'uneducated' workers earn double my pay.

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Inquerion t1_j4ufesi wrote

Not only in Netherlands. In most of Europe.

Higher education is not profitable nowadays. Except for few professions in Medicine, IT etc.

Skilled, "simple" workers are a lot more attractive to employers. They work a lot and rarely complain and are good at their specific job.

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asphias t1_j4v33r3 wrote

Those higher taxes and general attitude pay for:

  • public healthcare
  • great infrastructure, public transport, cycling infrastructure, and even car based transport aint too bad
  • livable neighborhoods everywhere, shops within walking/biking distance, nearby parks
  • relatively little homelessness
  • safe to go everywhere with relatively little risk of robbery, muggings, etc.
  • low violence, even lower gun violence
  • great cultural activities, museums, theater, music, etc. And cheap subscriptions to go there regularly
  • cheap groceries of good quality and a diverse selection.

Please, you dont know how good you have it here

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tedderksen t1_j4vhdpq wrote

As I stated above it's good for people who don't have a job aka you won't have to sleep on the street. Regarding all the other things these are getting rapidly more expensive every year. We currently have 900.000 adults between 20-35 living with their parents because houses are too expensive. That's more than 30% of people in that age group, so as a working college-educated adult it's significantly harder to get some basic necessities. Overall your points are valid if you compare it to the Netherlands 10 years ago. But due to rapid population aging the current wellfare state is going to be unsustainable in the near future.

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ELDYLO t1_j4u79i8 wrote

Not American and I didn’t mean to stay. Just to visit my relatives that are still there. But thanks for the advice.

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tedderksen t1_j4zlz6m wrote

I've lived here all my life you have no idea how quickly things are turning to shit. 17% inflation in 1 year is no joke (highest in Europe), record high immigration combined with dumb co2 laws which stop construction on houses. All issues you point out are irrelevant racism is everywhere. And as I said before if you're at the bottom of the barrel without a job the Netherlands is 1000x better for sure as it's a socialist country. But if you work hard there are way more opportunities for high-paying jobs in America. At the end of the day, I'd rather pay my own bills than someone else their bills. It won't be long before the government here will have a say if you put a piece of meat on your plate or how much you drive with your car. You can feel the shift towards CCP-style control in everyone's life.

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