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Malstrom42 t1_j6nj91b wrote

I work in downtown Surrey, and ANYTHING to help welcome. We have so many deaths in that area.

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art-love-social t1_j6p3dxw wrote

How will this reduce deaths ?

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Ivy_lane_Denizen t1_j6paulj wrote

Other countries have seen a lot of success with this method. I dont know Canada's and assume its similar.

The idea is to remove barriers to recovery as well as making it safe for people to consume.

Things like more pure drugs (not cut with anything dangerous), clean needles, lightening stigma, a support network, and doctors on site.

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art-love-social t1_j6pbrww wrote

How will it enable more pure drugs ? [ I assume they already have a clean needle program - most places have] - thre is no mention of support network or doctors on sites. The Portuguese model works-ish because the users are persuaded to join a rehab. Once they are in rehab - they cannot leave/just sign themselves out

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Cultural_Yam7212 t1_j6pei48 wrote

It works in Portugal because it’s a small country. Portland decriminalized hard drugs and there’s open drug use all over. It’s gotten significantly worse, and people flock here because they won’t get arrested. It’s only works if actual rehab and mental health facilities are available

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Ivy_lane_Denizen t1_j6pcovt wrote

Well they would have to supply it. IIRC Switzerland saw success with treatments like this, but Im not well versed in the details.

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kimbosdurag t1_j6orpd8 wrote

No one is doing a cost benefit analysis and saying "hey you know what? I should start doing heroin and live on the street, seems worth it." I hope that you or someone you love never finds themselves in that position it's not a life I'd wish on anyone.

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GishathOnABicycle t1_j6op54s wrote

I feel really sorry for you, I live around this demographic of people and I know it comes with some challenges but it is easy enough to avoid.

These poor humans have gone through things you. Couldn’t even imagine and the worst day of their life is everyday and tomorrow. You have no idea what it’s like to be them.

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FrozenHoneyJar t1_j6ood9k wrote

What a tragic outlook. These are people with stories of insurmountable difficulty, that are immensely complex, who need assistance in a failing system. It’s evident that you have very little experience with the nuanced grip of addiction, so please do not speak on it.

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snippy2100 t1_j6p4amj wrote

I know there's actual hard working families out there that could use help. Don't waste time or money on these dregs of society.

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Malstrom42 t1_j6ozmjk wrote

You're... advocating for the death of homeless folks, and folks with mental illnesses and addiction issues?

Yikes. That's... wow, another level of inhumane.

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snippy2100 t1_j6p40r0 wrote

Why should society waste a penny on these losers?

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YouAllBotherMe t1_j6p1vej wrote

Disgusting sentiment.

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snippy2100 t1_j6p6by9 wrote

Oh you support spending tons of money on these people instead of actual hard working families? I'd say you have it backwards.

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