22HitchSlaps

22HitchSlaps t1_ja8r9fx wrote

I see this kind of sentiment expressed increasingly frequently in these spaces and equally just in general life, though people outside of the AI world tend to just put it down to a more general feeling that change is coming.

I think it's wrong to dismiss this as "JuSt LiVe 4 ToDayz!" Particularly annoying if it's followed by "you could die tomorrow." I'm genuinely not trying to be a dick but ask yourself, is that advice really useful in any way? Are you applying it to your own life? Do people really live for today and love life at their 9-5, day in day out? I don't think so. Our societies have been forward thinking since the advent of farming, modern life is this on steroids, resource hoarding is the name of the game.

We can't go around telling young people who wonder what they will do in life "just live for today" that's not going to help them choose an educational path or understand what they want out of life. Personally I see this question and the attempt to answer it as a fundamental part of surviving "the singularity" as a society.

Pardon the bad metaphor but things feel pointless because we are building a house that we know will collapse. And we're not all building this house because "I just love the day to day!" No it's because we have to work to get money in order to live, working to perpetrate a system that we know is no longer fit for the future. Of course that scenario is going to cause angst, it's fundamentally insane.

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22HitchSlaps t1_j9w4onh wrote

With how narrow AI is now I tend to agree with you. No one is going to pay for that. But the thing is we just don't know when AGI is coming, maybe a long way off. To me though I still see even the continued prevalence of narrow AI as so destabilising that it'll affect every sector and job, even if it doesn't specifically take it over. Whether agi or this kinda paradigm shifting destabilisation happens in the next 10 years, who knows but I do see it as inevitable. We need an entirely new approach to society, jobs and capitalism.

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22HitchSlaps t1_j9w2gdl wrote

Well that's actually fairly reasonable then. I'd say though that the idea that AI will do "some stuff sure but not MY STUFF" is shortsighted. Sufficiently advanced AI will do everything better than humans and the thing is the tech is like an avalanche that has already started. I'm 40 years younger than you, there's no job I could ever do that won't be better done by AI by the time I'm finished learning it to the level you could have in your life time. Such is life...now.

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22HitchSlaps t1_j1fiz4u wrote

I get why you think in such a manner given the amount of negativity around "AI killer robots" kind of nonsense but I just don't feel like your argument will play out the way you think it will. Putting aside debates about how far along the technology is and how fast it will improve and evolve, the real issue is our pre-existing economic and political systems. We just do not have the ability to deal with this right now.

Firstly it needs to create at least as many jobs as it takes away and it needs to create those jobs in the same industry as it's removing them from. Which to me just seems impossible. How are you going to re-train millions of truck drivers for instance.

People always bang on about the industrial revolution as if they are even remotely similar. There's no comparison to AI in human history. Period. And even if the analogy held up are we going to ignore the impact the industrial revolution had, say on the wars that followed?

Even if everything goes right with the technology, I just don't see how we as a society are going to travel through it without completely restructuring society.

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