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Adeldor t1_jduz47o wrote
When reading such ignorant and sensationalized press reports, consider when they're reporting on subjects about which one is not familiar, and wonder then on the inaccuracy there.
Adeldor t1_jcvv9kj wrote
Reply to comment by crepesballsoffire in The Fermi Paradox and the Possibility of Intelligent Extraterrestrial Life by Beginning-Court1946
Unlike heavier-than-air flight, this isn't in the category of a technical problem yet to be solved. It's more along the lines of not being able to reach temperatures below absolute zero.
By all understanding, FTL travel between two points in space appears to be impossible even when attempting to bypass direct FTL travel through that space via wormholes or Alcubierre drives. Alcubierre himself has doubts regarding his drive, indicating it has the potential to violate causality, a point supported by Prof. Allen Everett. Such violation is anathema to most cosmologists and physicists.
In other words, the speed of light is set not by light itself, but by causality. It is deeply fundamental to the nature of the universe. Even were FTL travel possible, it'd only be through phenomena such as multiple forking universal timelines, that is, one way trips out of "our" universe.
Meanwhile, beyond this somewhat dated paper (PDF) refuting White and Juday's claims, I couldn't find any refereed papers or sources for their interferometer. Have you one to provide?
Adeldor t1_jbqyx8k wrote
Reply to comment by RunTheBull13 in Space sector reacts to collapse of Silicon Valley Bank by TransientSignal
I heard on the news today there was a bank run on SVB. Such do indeed have a history of cascading.
Adeldor t1_jay1f1t wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Half of all active satellites are now from SpaceX. Here’s why that may be a problem by ye_olde_astronaut
No, he did not cut off service. Starlink provided service and hardware free of charge after the Ukrainian vice prime minister's plea for help. No one realized the war would drag on for as long as it has, and after a while Musk wanted the US to pay for future service, just like Raytheon et al are being paid.
Meanwhile, the service continues uninterrupted, with the quoted Ukrainian minister saying Musk is "one of the biggest private donors of our future victory."
Adeldor t1_jaxzcb9 wrote
Reply to comment by alexanderpas in Half of all active satellites are now from SpaceX. Here’s why that may be a problem by ye_olde_astronaut
Hubble's orbit has decayed over time. If proposals to reboost it come to pass (by SpaceX, no less), the problem will be ameliorated. If not, the telescope's near end of life anyway.
Meanwhile, future spaceborne telescopes are destined increasingly for far orbits (eg L2) to avoid the biggest photobomber of all - the Earth itself. In LEO it obscures nearly half the sky, limiting greatly what can be observed when - especially for long duration exposures. Far orbits bypass both that and satellite constellations.
Adeldor t1_jaifbtv wrote
Reply to comment by Goregue in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
Don't conflate my comments with political denial. The point of my responses:
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the sky is not falling (if you'll pardon the pun). Astronomers - professional and amateur (I count myself among the latter) - continue to operate successfully, what with the tools that are available now to ameliorate the effects of yet higher flying satellites (illuminated for longer periods) and aircraft (illuminated at all hours of the night).
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Truly global high speed, low latency internet has huge benefits on society, from providing access to remote communities, to assisting those defending their lands. Even without considering the impossibility of global mobile operation otherwise, there's no other kind of system capable of such ubiquitous coverage.
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a longer term/fuzzier point - beyond terrestrial mitigations, space based observatories are and will be supplementing ground-based telescopes. The technologies that make constellations cost effective will no doubt feed into making more space-borne instruments feasible.
I've seen it written that Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, etc don't own the sky, and this is certainly true. However, neither do astronomers. Constellations are beyond the point of proving their dramatic worth, so they're here regardless of opinion. Observatories and constellation operators will work together and cooperate because there's no alternative.
Adeldor t1_jai9c1w wrote
Reply to comment by Goregue in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
Yes, the Rubin telescope is more sensitive. Nevertheless, in general, the numbers I extracted apply. Meanwhile, regarding that telescope, they go on to say:
> ... depending on the time of year, the time of night, and the simplifying assumptions of the study. Mitigation techniques that could be applied on ESO telescopes would not work for this observatory although other strategies are being actively explored." [Emphasis added]
Regarding other constellations, yes, their higher orbits will be more of an issue. One of the good side effects of Starlink's low orbits is the short period of twilight illumination.
But again, astronomy is in no way experiencing an "existential threat." It's a ridiculous exaggeration. There will be effects. There are and will be workarounds and mitigations. And the sky will be shared.
Adeldor t1_jahsf9s wrote
Reply to comment by FlingingGoronGonads in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
You speak of misinformation, then misrepresent what I wrote with this:
> You are attempting to create an impression that there is no problem, and that everything has been or will be mitigated. [emphasis added]
In fact I wrote:
> There will be effects, but they are in general minor, or there are mitigating actions being taken now ... [emphasis added]
I neither wrote nor implied "no problem" and "everything has been or will be mitigated." Those are your words. Further, I provide the links for everyone to read the full releases in context, in an explicit attempt to avoid the very sin you seem to imply I'm committing.
Regardless, constellations are here now. Their worth has been proven, Starlink at least and professional observatories are working together to share the sky, and astronomy is not facing an existential threat, per that click-bait headline.
Adeldor t1_jahcnx2 wrote
Reply to comment by StarPeopleSociety in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
Problem there is 100 big satellites would have to be at much higher altitudes for global visibility, and that introduces significant latency. Further, at higher altitudes, there's no natural meaningful decay of the orbits in the event of satellite failure.
Adeldor t1_jagvvp1 wrote
Reply to comment by Dismal-Philosopher-4 in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
That was then. The current Scientific American doesn't hold a candle to its former self. IMO the decline started when they ceased publishing substantial scientific projects and experiments such as these in their Amateur Scientist column. So no, it isn't now "as good as it gets."
Regardless, the direct statements from professional observatories carry more weight, and that SciAm title is unquestionably click-bait.
Adeldor t1_jafswvk wrote
Instead of blatant click-bait magazine articles, here are the opinions on the subject directly from major professional observatories (a variation of a comment I made a while ago):
Below are four links to professional observatory opinions, with salient quotes. There will be effects, but they are in general minor, or there are mitigating actions being taken now, from satellite design modification to filtering software and timing.
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"The study finds that large telescopes like ESO's Very Large Telescope (VLT) and ESO's upcoming Extremely Large Telescope (ELT) will be "moderately affected" by the constellations under development. The effect is more pronounced for long exposures (of about 1000 s), up to 3% of which could be ruined during twilight, the time between dawn and sunrise and between sunset and dusk. Shorter exposures would be less impacted, with fewer than 0.5% of observations of this type affected. Observations conducted at other times during the night would also be less affected, as the satellites would be in the shadow of the Earth and therefore not illuminated." [1]
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"Yet despite the increase in image streaks, the new report notes that ZTF science operations have not been strongly affected. Study co-author Tom Prince, the Ira S. Bowen Professor of Physics, Emeritus, at Caltech, says the paper shows a single streak affects less than one-tenth of a percent of the pixels in a ZTF image ... Prince says that software can be developed to help mitigate potential problems; for example, software could predict the locations of the Starlink satellites and thus help astronomers avoid scheduling an observation when one might be in the field of view. Software can also assess whether a passing satellite may have affected an astronomical observation, which would allow astronomers to mask or otherwise reduce the negative effects of the streaks." [2]
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"Most recently, the NRAO and GBO have been working directly with SpaceX to jointly analyze and minimize any potential impacts from their proposed Starlink system. These discussions have been fruitful and are providing valuable guidelines that could be considered by other such systems as well ... Among the many proposals under consideration are defining exclusions zones and other mitigations around the National Science Foundation’s current radio astronomy facilities and the planned future antenna locations for the Next Generation Very Large Array." [3]
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More recently, the National Science Foundation has published an astronomy coordination agreement, detailing procedures and designs aimed at minimizing interference and interaction between observatories and Starlink (both ways, as observatories use sky-pointed lasers to create artificial stars for focussing and the like). [4]
Meanwhile, professional and amateur astronomers both have tools now to deal with the existing satellites and (far worse) night flying aircraft.
Adeldor t1_jaewmj7 wrote
Reply to comment by DBDude in Interesting take on SpaceX’s 2023 Revenue by KotesFolly_
A few months ago I had a go at calculating the annual costs of the currently operating satellites. It doesn't factor in launch pad and other non-recurring and standing costs, but it does give an idea. I repeat it below:
- Currently ~3000 satellites at ~$250k each, and each lasting 5 years
- One Falcon 9 launches ~50 satellites, at a marginal launch cost of $15,000,000 (used booster + fairings)
So, total launch cost is:
- $250,000 * 50 + $15,000,000 = $27,500,000, or $550,000 per satellite
- The satellites last 5 years, so the per year cost is $110,000 per satellite
Thus, for all 3000 satellites, the current annual cost to build and launch is ~$330,000,000.
Of course, they're adding satellites, version 2 is coming out, Starship will reduce marginal launch costs by maybe an order of magnitude, ground operations and development costs are not included here, blah blah blah. Nevertheless, this might give a glimpse of the expense side.
Adeldor t1_jaeuc70 wrote
Reply to comment by Am_Seeker_731 in We need more rules for space junk and moon bases, NASA and US officials say by DevilsRefugee
The Δv required to send anything from Earth orbit into the sun is far higher than that required to eject it from the solar system. Less Δv still is required to have it reenter the Earth's atmosphere. The practicalities of imparting the required velocities is, however, non-trivial.
To get an idea of the Δv required to get anywhere departing Earth - from the Sun to leaving the solar system - this map helps.
Adeldor t1_jad1laz wrote
Reply to comment by SpearOfNeptune in Video of the Starlink V2 satellites being deployed. by DawgTheHallMonitor
Can you suggest a better alternative for them, or provide one? One that works on mountains, in deserts, at the poles, in jungles, on oceans, in aircraft, etc.?
Adeldor t1_jad145q wrote
Reply to comment by What_U_KNO in Video of the Starlink V2 satellites being deployed. by DawgTheHallMonitor
In which case he'd sell the company, deorbit the satellites and close it down, or abandon it and the satellites would come down shortly by themselves. In any case, the upside far outweighs any downside.
Adeldor t1_jaczr5n wrote
Reply to comment by What_U_KNO in Video of the Starlink V2 satellites being deployed. by DawgTheHallMonitor
Regardless of one's opinion of Musk, Starlink is far more than just him, with many hard working engineers making it happen.
Adeldor t1_jacz7ro wrote
Reply to comment by SpearOfNeptune in Video of the Starlink V2 satellites being deployed. by DawgTheHallMonitor
Nonsense. Rural villages have a single connection, which they share through local wifi.
Adeldor t1_jacyet7 wrote
Reply to comment by What_U_KNO in Video of the Starlink V2 satellites being deployed. by DawgTheHallMonitor
So says the person with an internet connection about a company (not an individual) providing remote villages with service, emergency workers in the field, areas cut off by natural disaster, and others without connection.
Adeldor t1_jacwph1 wrote
Reply to comment by kayak_enjoyer in Video of the Starlink V2 satellites being deployed. by DawgTheHallMonitor
Looks like the camera is on the tensioning rod, which in prior videos seems to move at roughly that rate.
Adeldor t1_jacwkb5 wrote
Reply to comment by What_U_KNO in Video of the Starlink V2 satellites being deployed. by DawgTheHallMonitor
Their orbits are low enough, were Starlink to quit launching and every satellite malfunctioned (IOW couldn't be deliberately deorbited as they are normally), within a few years there'd be none left in orbit.
And I don't consider equipment providing low latency, high speed internet service everywhere on the planet trash.
Adeldor t1_j9yh7qk wrote
Reply to comment by LucyEleanor in Which space launch are you most excited for in 2023? by DealCommercial348
Boca Chica, near Brownsville. Currently sometime in March, but that's surely fluid.
Adeldor t1_j9vucpe wrote
Reply to comment by DealCommercial348 in Which space launch are you most excited for in 2023? by DealCommercial348
Adeldor t1_j9vskyr wrote
Without question, for me it's Starship. If the concept ends up performing anywhere near expectation, this first launch will be a major step toward a revolution in orbital and deep space access, regardless of the flight's outcome.
Adeldor t1_j9vs8i5 wrote
Reply to comment by valcatosi in After Vulcan comes online, ULA plans to dramatically increase launch cadence by OutlandishnessOk2452
Beyond the interesting technical compromises, the only importance it has for me is the fact that until one actually makes it to orbit, it's yet to be proved. Needless to say, it's surely exceedingly unlikely some hidden gotcha making methalox impractical will surface.
Adeldor t1_jeac70g wrote
Reply to comment by Postnificent in Scientists discover supermassive black hole that now faces Earth by x3Smiley
Beyond the possibility of Hawking radiation, all current understanding has it that nothing can cross back out from a black hole's event horizon.
And /u/__Raptor__ is correct. Black holes certainly don't "spit stars out." In fact, large star life cycles end with black holes. If CNN said otherwise, they're quite wrong, perhaps misunderstanding orbital ejection of objects outside the event horizon - a phenomenon common to all multi-body orbiting systems, not just black holes.