I love how the fullbringer arc was so awful that you consider it filler.

Bleach got canceled because of low ratings.

> Bleach fight can look great, see Yamamoto vs ywach

Yep new anime looks great. Doesn't change anything on what I said.

Not really.

Those are his signature moves but there's more to the battles than just using them.

The clones for example don't really do anything on their own and are more of a utility. For example he uses clones to power up his rasangan or to avoid attacks midair or to fake out an opponent.

The rasengan is also(typically) a close range attack with charge time. Meaning that in battles naruto has to do alot of things to get close to the opponent to be able to hit someone with them.

Meanwhile in bleach getsuga tenshou is a ranged attack which is either too weak to hurt the opponent or powered up enough to do a ton of damage on hit depending on the situation.

Fights in bleach devolve to standing around talking. Literally pointless "basic attacks" that dont further any sort of strategy and then a power up killer move(bankai, etc etc).

If you don't believe me just go watch montages between the two shows. Like there is a reason why bleach got canceled and naruto has another 100+ episode spinoff/sequel after it completed.

You don't watch bleach for the fights(cuz they are mediocre) you watch it for the cool character designs/concepts, the story and "hype" moments.

No not really.

Like I guess if DragonBallz is the only shonen you've seen lol.

Like naruto has his own thing and skills. And when he fights people it's about how his skills match up with the baddies. Naruto also very rarely fights alone and most fights have alot of teamwork involved.

Then you have something like hunter x hunter where the main characters don't even fight the big bads half the time let alone beat them and there's usually an alternate win condition involved.

It's never just "omg ichigo is here and his powerlevel is over 9000!"

Yes it's a straight continuation.

That said the old anime is painful to watch. It drags and there's alot of filler.

I suggest the manga or reading/watching a summary.

I can't think of many shonen that does this. It's a very bleach thing.

His combat abilities never peak. Dude is essentially limitless. Ichigo is the most "Mary sue" Mc I have ever seen.

This is how literally every story arc of bleach goes.

• ichigo meets bad guy.
• ichigo fights said bad guys
• ichigo wins some but eventually loses to strong bad guy
• ichigo becomes/inherits power of said bad guys. Usually as a special attack
• ichigo stomps

Rinse and repeat.

Oh and those fights? "Getsuga tenshou" for days as you said over and over.

Main reason I can't rewatch lol.

Where do people get the idea that naruto is dumb?

Like I guess socially he's kinda clue less sometimes.

But naruto isn't dumb he just isn't talented. That's literally his whole shtick. He's a social outcast who has to work harder than anyone else to prove himself.

I never said naruto was some high iq genius but ok.

Op praised ichigo for not "having rocks for brains" unlike the other big three. which frankly idk where he got that idea from considering Ichigo doesn't really do anything but spam his "special moves" and bleaches fights don't really have any choreography to speak of(until recently) that would highlight any form of intelligence unlike say naruto where there is actually some of that lol

> Of the “Big Three”, Ichigo was the only one who didn’t have a head full of rocks.

Clearly you haven't seen naruto who is a pretty witty guy in combat.