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Aeseld t1_je840it wrote

Reply to comment by B4SSF4C3 in Ultramassive black hole over 30 billion times mass of our sun has been spotted. The discovery had been made possible thanks to a phenomenon known as gravitational lensing — the first time a black hole has been spotted in such a way. by Wagamaga

"What actually transpires beneath the veil of an event horizon? Decent people shouldn't think too much about that."

Academician Prokhor Zakharov, "For I Have Tasted The Fruit"

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Aeseld t1_jclfzkr wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Study of 1.65M COVID Vaccine Doses Finds Rare "Myocarditis" Generally Mild—More Than Half of Patients Didn't Need to be Hospitalized by Voices4Vaccines

Honestly, your comments keep disappearing now. So yeah, not going to get anywhere.

But... You're factually wrong here. And refusing to accept it for some reason. Myocarditis does not always lead to tissue damage. This is a fact. So yeah, mild inflammation and tissue damage are not the same thing. Unless you're going from tissue damage causing mild inflammation.

That's a cut or scrape, not myocarditis.

Myocarditis is the inflammation. If severe, it can cause tissue damage. Mild, does not generally cause tissue damage.

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Aeseld t1_jclef77 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Study of 1.65M COVID Vaccine Doses Finds Rare "Myocarditis" Generally Mild—More Than Half of Patients Didn't Need to be Hospitalized by Voices4Vaccines

Honestly, it feels like this statement has cause and effect reversed.

Tissue damage always has inflammation associated with it. The healing process. Tissue damage causes inflammation.

Inflammation does not always have tissue damage associated with it though. You've worded it a little poorly to make that point in the context of your other comments.

Plus, myocarditis does not always have tissue damage associated with it. Especially mild cases.

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Aeseld t1_jclb8vb wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Study of 1.65M COVID Vaccine Doses Finds Rare "Myocarditis" Generally Mild—More Than Half of Patients Didn't Need to be Hospitalized by Voices4Vaccines

Inflammation is a biological response of the immune system that can be triggered by a variety of factors, including pathogens, damaged cells and toxic compounds. These factors may induce acute and/or chronic inflammatory responses in the heart, pancreas, liver, kidney, lung, brain, intestinal tract and reproductive system, potentially leading to tissue damage or disease.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5805548/

Note the word, potentially. As in, not 100%.

Cytokines modulate the immune response to infection or inflammation and regulate inflammation itself via a complex network of interactions. However, excessive inflammatory cytokine production can lead to tissue damage, hemodynamic changes, organ failure, and ultimately death [59, 60].

Again, excessive inflammation 'can lead' to tissue damage. Excessive. Can lead.

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Aeseld t1_jckvihn wrote

Reply to comment by Long-Performer-2993 in Study of 1.65M COVID Vaccine Doses Finds Rare "Myocarditis" Generally Mild—More Than Half of Patients Didn't Need to be Hospitalized by Voices4Vaccines

Out of 1.65 million people, there were less than 100 cases that escalated to the point of needing a medical diagnosis. It's possible there were more, but that's a comparable rate to, say, aspirin or ibuprofen.

Were you going to organize a class action against Bayer? Roll this lawsuit against Pfizer with everyone who's had an adverse reaction to Advil?

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Aeseld t1_jckuswb wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Study of 1.65M COVID Vaccine Doses Finds Rare "Myocarditis" Generally Mild—More Than Half of Patients Didn't Need to be Hospitalized by Voices4Vaccines

I seem to recall that inflammation was an immune response. Severe or prolonged inflammation can cause tissue damage, but generally, the tissue is left intact, undamaged. I could be wrong. Swelling and heat and possibly pain, but that's just the body telling you to leave it alone and not poke it while it does its work.

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