They fixed this when they lost their first poll, after this one, only registered member of the party can vote

Room Temp IQ > Mob IQ

Oh nah, we good?

I was just explaining my thought process here, nothing against you, I thought you'd understand where I came from.

Edit: Oh god no that wasn't aimed at you, that was just, as I said, a device to explain what I meant in my original comment that you asked clarification about.

I was just explaining that it might be possible that a man from this era, as enlightened as they may be, may hold similar "soft" prejudices against someone of my complexion, especially in that era.

Well, hear me here.

Doing bigoted jokes because that's en vogue is not the same as doing bigoted bits to deconstruct the idea.

I'm not familiar with Tina Fey's work, as I already pointed out, but it can only be similar if her goals were similar.

Oh, I hear what you say.

Have you ever heard the expression 'mansplaining'?

I don't particularly agree with it but it's an useful device to explain my point.

Men who are said to mansplain are not necessarily men who hates women, who want to see them enslaved or so, they just have a tendency to believe women know less than them.

This is still sexism. Anyway, so I theorized that it might be possible that he would have seen me in such a way, because of the prejudices and because of the situation of the black population at that time.

That's what I meant by that, and I could be completely wrong, either way I'm not too flustered about it.

Yes, that's what I said, it's missing the point

I agree with you, that's exactly what I mean when I say that it's missing the point.

Even when he's being "racially insensitive", he's not doing it to promote a bigoted ideology or as an easy way to fame like modern right wing comedians are doing, he's doing it for the exact opposite.

It's like being mad at Schindler for making Jews work in his factory, basically.

I'm not really familiar with Tina Fey's work to be honest, but is she using her work in a politically engaged manner like Mark Twain?

Because that's specifically why I'm defending Mark Twain, he was using his work for equality. He didn't used these words to diminish black people like black faces were used, he used them to promote black people, he used his work that contained some measure of racism to advocate for our rights.

That's completely different than say a modern right wing humorist who makes racist jokes to appeal to a specific audience or to promote a bigoted ideology.

I understand, but that's not exactly the point I was making.

Mark Twain, for example, did believe that black people deserved rights and deserved to be treated like white people, but he still held some beliefs that conflicted with these ideas.

I'm not saying we should completely ignore the second part to focus on the first, I'm saying we should look at the second part under the light of the first part.

If, on the other hand, he had openly argued in favor of slavery, in favor of an unjust society, then it would be a completely different situation but this is not what he did.

An other good example of this, Schindler. Schindler was antisemitic, he even joined the Nazi party, but he ended saving thousands of Jews by risking his life every second of every day.

John Brown held some racist beliefs too, but he died, hanged, trying to end slavery.

These are people of their time but they elevated themselves above it, above their misconceptions and their prejudices, to fight for what they believed was right.

This not like saying "General Lee was a man of his time", for example.

That's so weird though, I feel like it's missing the point.

Mark Twain was a product of his time but he was also trying to change things, to make them better than they were, to end slavery.

Ofc it doesn't shield his works from criticism yet whenever they are being critiqued it should be taken into consideration.

I'm black and I like Mark Twain. He probably would've looked down on me because of my skin color, after all he wouldn't know better, but I still like him because he helped the idea "colored people should be free too" to propagate.

>but usually its a series of moves that are scored based on execution and landing. You're going to score a guy based on how nuts he can make the crowd go?

I'm not even a fan of wrestling but it seems to me that you could just rate the wrestlers on their moves in very much the same way figure skaters are, with some relatively minor adaptations.

I could see wrestlers coming with a choreography, pen it down for the judges then execute it in front of them while the judges note things like air time, form on landings and the credibility of the hits.