Autistom
Autistom t1_jan9qay wrote
Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
On the contrary - its precisely because these jobs dont generate direct income that the have to be paid from your taxes and therefore are paid less than positions in the free market where you can increase salaries of the most valuable positions to attract better employees and generate more profit.
But, as the others have probably realised by now, you will just rewert to your ultimate “you dont understand the term” or “your opinion is just incorrect” argument again. Alas this is my last comment in this pointless crusade - try to be thankful that the system works even though you dont fully understand it is my final advice (othervise the people working these unfarly underpaid social services but we doing manual labour by now).
Autistom t1_jahn7er wrote
Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Oh I think we agree on the fact that women preffered professions are paid less, even though not intentionally and that can be a meaning of these words.
But what most people take of the “pay gap” is that women are somehow paid less regardless of the profession and that is wrong and has severe consequences in the society.
Autistom t1_jahim73 wrote
Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
No I dont really find that remarkable. On average, men are more interrested in things and women in people. Thats why the prefference difference is mostly the same acrost the world and why the female preffered professions pay less - you sell things easier than you sell empathy.
As to the IT guys vs Nurses example - there is no person deciding these things. No evil patriarch setting the wages. I would guess that there is greater demand for IT professionals (as they generate more profit) than for nurses on the market or that there are less people capable of becoming IT professionals than those capable of becomming nurses in the population. It has nothing to do with gender.
Autistom t1_jahhne3 wrote
Reply to comment by Pressed_Thumb in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Yeah that sounds like a way to do it. I would just take the pay difference in each profession separately and then made an average of that.
Autistom t1_jahg0o0 wrote
Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Well its sad but it is econnomically impossible (unless you are rooting for communism) to pay a person who helps generate huge profits such as IT specialist or financial analyst the same wage as to someone who is a social services worker. I am not saying that its not an honourable and important profession, but generates much smaller financial value.
Autistom t1_jahdyxd wrote
Reply to comment by Kesshh in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
True, that was not the best argument. But calling this a pay gap is intentionally missleading, since it takes averages over all professions for both genders and then implies that the difference means women get paid less for the same work. The truth is though, that almost all pay gap is due to different carreer prefferences between the genders - to use the most cliche example the technological faculties have majority of men while social faculties have majority of women. Once you count in the prefferences, the pay gap shrinks almost to zero.
Autistom t1_jao6dfw wrote
Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
And again - thats not an argument. You are not capable of defending your believes so you resort to insults.