I mean you're the one in here asking if you should stop every 10 feet for 5 miles while you wait for a UPS truck to turn onto a different road.

Can you give any examples of effective "aggressive MV enforcement" that has had a measurable impact on traffic fatalities without costing a fortune?

You CAN eliminate them. A car free city cannot have any traffic accidents. Public transit provides this solution and provides an incredible 5-to-1 ROI. We can start building this RIGHT NOW.

Better road and neighborhood design greatly reduces the opportunity for vehicle accidents where there must be roads.

Don't live under the lie that traffic accidents are an unavoidable consequence of every day life.

> nuh uh

Thanks for your constructive input

> but they are not solutions to auto-related fatalities and serious injuries

This is not true. Increased public transportation usage directly corrolates to reduced traffic accidents: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-11/cities-with-good-public-transit-have-fewer-road-fatalities

And this makes sense logically. If more people are using public transit, fewer people are driving. If there are fewer vehicles on the roads, there are fewer opportunities for accidents. If you can take the bus home from the bar, why would you drive? This isn't the end-all-be-all solution, which is why I mentioned road re-design. But it needs to be seriously talked about.

Vision Zero talks about this too: https://visionzeronetwork.org/public-transit-an-undervalued-effective-vision-zero-strategy/

> Such rail proposals are not only impossibly expensive

A common misconception. For one thing I bet this is cheaper than you're thinking. Sure it costs a few hundred million dollars (edit: per mile, sorry), but the state is eager to drop 5 BILLION dollars on repairing a stretch of I-84 that's shorter than a mile in length. So clearly this level of cost is not an issue for us.

Also, every dollar spent on public transit returns four to five dollars in economic benefit: https://www.apta.com/research-technical-resources/research-reports/economic-impact-of-public-transportation-investment/

So even if this ended up costing 20 billion dollars, that means we can expect a return of nearly 80 billion back into the economy. Are you willing to turn down 80 billion dollars of economic growth? Because I'm not.

> I'm also skeptical of how much traffic they would take off the road in a place like WH

Entire cities in Europe are completely car-free and they're doing just fine. And they can do that because of strong public transit.

> but even that would be decades away

If we aren't building and planning for future generations, what the fuck are we even doing??

Well established, cheap, frequent public transportation is the only real solution to this problem. The average citizen is too dumb to operate a motor vehicle safely. The problem is the state isn't looking at this seriously enough. We need light rail between our large towns. We need high speed rail down the 84 and 91 corridors and along the shore. We need an effective and frequent bus system to bridge the gap between rail stations. We need to redesign our roads so people aren't comfortable driving megatrucks 30 mph over the speed limit down residential roads.

The more people we can get off of the roads with quality transportation, the fewer deaths and injuries there will be.

Has something to do with the medical program. They aren't allowed to use "street" names so they make up some shit like Canibidol to make it sound more medicine-y