Autobot_ATrac

Autobot_ATrac t1_je8k918 wrote

The Chemical Brothers have two.

Surrender - masterpiece. The entire album is about surrendering to the experience. It’s a concept around dance and rave culture. The album cover is one person lost in the music holding their arms up victoriously, and I believe playing a tambourine. Musically, it was something that had never been seen before. An electronic music group making essentially the rock music electronic ablum, and they nailed it. The Cameos from Bernard sumner, noel Gallagher, hope Sandoval of Mazzy Star, and samples by missy elliot are perfectly laid. It’s an incredible psychedelic experience.

Further - they broke from vocal collabs, used a plethora of vintage equipment, and had multiple bridges between songs to make things feel incredibly cohesive. It’s another journey album And hilariously or intentionally named after the bud that the merry pranksters drove around in frying on LSD in the 60s.

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Autobot_ATrac t1_jdptapx wrote

Damn… the data is beautiful crowd sure do have strong ideas of what is acceptable beauty.

Thanks for the work on this. Yeah, I’m sure there were other ways to present it, but I learned a lot. What a crazy winter they’ve had. Gave at least a pause to the gnarly drought.

Thanks for sharing!

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Autobot_ATrac t1_j5rnh12 wrote

It’s a brutal rabbit hole and it’s how I ended up in the spot to make my diatribe from above.

If you’re a right brained person with high creative expectations, that kinda “discovery” (ha) can be brutal.

EG the juxtaposition comment. Robots in leather jackets with led lights on their faces playing in a laser light show pyramid? Fuck my face and call me Jenna, I’m in.

But to find out the amount of those songs that are just restructured samples? It no doubt knocks them down a bunch of rungs.

Hip Hop does what Daft Punk did all the time. “It’s a hard knock life… for us…” and a million others. But there’s a history of it, an added layer of the MC on the song, and frankly, some of what I consider to be the best hip hop of all time didn’t do it to the letter like other artists anyways.

Glad you went down the rabbit hole. The blue pill route is boring.

And you said copied. Shit… they just remixed those songs.

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Autobot_ATrac t1_j5ppogr wrote

Respect your opinion and you’re entitled to it. I actually think it’s my favorite listen of theirs, especially when paired with interstellar 5555.

But… it’s layered with samples that lay the ground work for most of the songs in their foundations. Including one on one more time that they pretty much refuse to claim is a sample. In fact, the artist behind the song that was sampled hasn’t seen a dime in royalties.

While the album is a beautiful, conceptual work of art and has earned its position in music history, they’re kinda assholes about how they made it, and some of the songs are just Melodies built on stacks of old disco samples.

I can’t give an album like that best album of all time. The only exception being Endtroducing by DJ shadow, but even in that case, he handles samples like Mozart.

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Autobot_ATrac t1_j5pgpz9 wrote

Daft Punk is the weirdest juxtaposition in music history for me.

The creativity that was the robot era from a performance and hype standpoint is music history. I have framed art of their masks from Lemon magazine where they're posing as David Bowie's heroes album. The replica masks go for thousands of dollars, and the pyramid live show is history as well.

But then, even as a pretty hard fan, they've been disappointing in a lot of ways. I think they're ego maniacs beyond what they deserve for the robot concept stuff above. I think when you look at their work, you're talking about 2 classics from their early era, and a pretty solid final album in Randon Access memories. Then you pepper in a couple remix albums, and a fuckin Disney soundtrack in which they really only had a pubic hair of a fingerprint on, and really, I think they end up being a bizarrely overhyped group.

I think they're done because they were done creatively. Collective music society was riding their dicks because they were amazing at marketing and hype, and had a history going back 15 years now, of putting on amazing live shows playing their hits from their first three albums.

Dare I say this ... I think they're more akin to KISS than they are to their ancient electronic music brethren like the Chemical Brothers, Underworld, and countless house DJs that even Daft Punk thanked on their first album on the song Teachers.

All that said, if they toured again and did anything close to the Pyramid thing, I'd buy tickets. But there are better, more consistent, harder working electronic and house artists out there that deserve the praise we keep blindly throwing at Daft Punk.

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