I have not. I am against people who shout a new technology down when we know almost nothing. I, too, am skeptical, but there is skepticism, and then there is just doubt backed by nothing. Skepticism is part of the scientific method. Claiming something won't work because you don't understand it sounds like a personal problem. I am yet to see anyone bring up a valid reason backed by data and knowledge of the technology in question.

The jury is not out on SpaceX and the problems they are solving. Affordable launch platforms are the limitation of the space industry. What they have achieved already has opened up the door for many companies that do not have the budgets of the large companies and governments. The hearings on SpaceX had little to do with the budgets proposed. Former astronauts referred to it as unethical and said SpaceX would kill people. We also were completely reliant on Russian launch platforms before SpaceX was successful. Now, 99% of the industry uses Falcon 9. It was 100% worth it to solve the problems they did, and they have advanced the space industry because of it.

I agree with the physics point. I am just happy to see someone actually taking risks in the name of science.

I will just agree to disagree. Skeptics always have a lot to say, but nobody remembers them. Not even the super edgy ones on Reddit. A company willing to publicly try and risk failing has my respect. I look forward to their results, pass or fail. Either way, we learn something we didn't know before.

That is not promising a result. It's simply making a statement. A propulsion device that uses only electricity would have the power to do exactly that. That would also clearly exceed our imagination, considering what we believe is possible does not align with what they are claiming their propulsion might do. None of that is a promise of results. Their most recent news also says, "after demonstration and baselining of the IVO Quantum Drive’s performance specifications," which means it is going to prove that it can work and to what extent. Obviously, they think it will work if they are willing to put up rocket launch money.

Can you point me in the direction of the promising of world changing results? I see a company that is saying they have tested it and verified that it works in a vacuum chamber, and now they are going to space to test it. Why are people so afraid of the scientific method? Also, do you have communication with every one of these circles? You must if you know they haven't shared anything with anyone. It is refreshing to see a company not just make a bold claim but actually do something.

No. The EmDrive and QI have literally nothing in common. QI or some form of it is supposedly how this drive works. Being a pure electric drive to me sounds like they are using electrons to do something. EmDrive used microwaves. So far as I can tell, the people who compare this to the EmDrive don't seem to understand how the EmDrive works (or doesn't work for that matter). If they start mentioning microwaves and a chamber, I will immediately retract this statement, but pure electric and QI have nothing in common with the EmDrive.

The video on YouTube says it is patent pending, so it is, in fact, a very good explanation. I said it is not surprising that they keep it quiet in the public space, and that is exactly what they seem to be doing. What we know is that they have a patent pending propulsion technology that clearly provided enough data to convince another company to partner with them and send up a satellite with their propulsion on a multi-million dollar rocket launch. They clearly have something more than a simple bold claim. It may not work in space, but it also may.

Very interesting. I wonder how he was involved, if at all?

I did find a few things where they reference QI. I wonder if he is involved with this?

I am skeptical. I see they had an announcement a year ago and offered demos to companies. I would bet that's how they have a launch partner. It is also not surprising that a company with possibly revolutionary tech keeps quiet about how it does what it does it the public space.

Yes, because small companies buy multi-million dollar launches to go to space and proceed to fake data from extremely sensitive and accurate measurement equipment, all of which are verified by outside sources. I can see them making a claim and never delivering on it, but a launch is a totally different animal. In order to pull off the scam, you would have to be able to fake a mass of data. That scenario is so complex/silly that you can't possibly believe they would go through that much trouble just to fool people momentarily. They and their partner clearly think they have something and have enough data to back up and justify a rocket launch.

Do you have inside information that we do not on how this technology works? No offense, but your degree means you know a certain determined extent of human knowledge of a subject. It does not mean you know the secrets of the universe, including every human invention that can and will exist. If this was the case, your rockets would be landing themselves instead of SpaceX. I'd also like to point out the quantity of PhD holders that stood in the way of SpaceX and many other revolutionary companies that have brought about technological change. Let's see the data first, or did they not teach you the scientific method while you were obtaining that fancy degree?

I'm more concerned with the data. It will either work or it will not. Everyone was critical of SpaceX before they did what they had done. I see no reason to either doubt or believe a company until I have been given a reason to do so.

How can you conclude that when we don't know how it works? I say we wait for the results from space to draw conclusions. I'm still skeptical, but I'm also against damning technology that I don't understand just to sound edgy.

Actually electricity is fuel. Electrons have mass. If it doesn't expell electrons and is self-contained, we will have to wait for their explanation of exactly how it works.

If they sent it up for hype knowing it wasn't real, the data would immediately invalidate it, which I'm assuming they know. I do agree that it will either be revolutionary or it simply won't work.

Incorrect. It says no solid, liquid, or gas fuel. They also say it uses solely electricity. I also do not see a claim of it being reactionless, and I have been searching high and low for more information. Apparently, this stems from quantized inertia.

I don't think it is reactionless. It sounds like they figured something out in the physics realm using electrons. They haven't said much about how it works for obvious reasons if they are selling it. They clearly figured something out if they got a company to partner with them and scheduled a rocket launch. I can't imagine why someone would waste that much money if they weren't confident.

I agree. The data publicly available is very limited on their technology, but if I had a revolutionary technology, I would be pretty guarded about it, too. It is really cool to see a company actually follow through.

SS: I remember seeing something about this technology last year. Making a bold claim is one thing, but actually spending millions to go to space is another. I see they have a launch partner, so they must have something because companies don't just send things up on multi-million dollar launches for fun. If this thing actually works as intended, it could change space exploration. It's about time we get excited about space again. I wonder what they intend to do with this besides just Earth orbit missions?