Conscious_Card6261

Conscious_Card6261 t1_j3js7hq wrote

Well thats a productive response. And I disagree. Some jobs I think people need to take with the ex0ectation that they cant strike. Its for the greater good of society. It would be incredibly detrimental to the broader public if a massive fire broke out and all the fire fighters werent there to respond. And even with appropriate time to prepare, if there arent enough people there to replace strikers than people are stil SOL.

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Conscious_Card6261 t1_j3jrkhc wrote

I mean dude i get the legal arguement but youre using that as a sheild to avoid wrestling with the actual problem. Sure they will be legally sheilded but that doesnt change the fact that hospitals will be understaffed at a point when they otherwise wouldnt be. I understand its an unfair situation, I am not saying their issues shouldnt be addressed but I dont think that people who perform an essential fumction like being a nurse should be allowed to strike because the utilitarian calculus shows that them striking will lead to more deaths. Ny has the taylor law that prevents government workers in the state from protesting and iasues still get addressed.

So to reframe my question so there is no ambiguity,do you think that the lives lost and harm done to patients as a result of nurses who, within their legal rights, strike is worth less than maintaiming the right to strike

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Conscious_Card6261 t1_j3jpi6v wrote

Do you accept that the right for nurses to strink is more important than loss of life and damage to patients that would occur due to wide spread worker shortage? That is the central question that needs to be answered here. Would you accept the death of you loves one in a health emergency because nurses were on strike?

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Conscious_Card6261 t1_j3jn0h7 wrote

I might get down voted for this but this seems like one of those industries that shouldnt be allowed to strike..... like I'm sorry but goddamn you cant run a hospital without nurses and a strike could easily lead to the death of hundreds of sickly patients. I hope they get their demands met, especially if the demand is better balance between staff and patients but if you stand in solidarity with this than please ackniwldge and accept the very real and potentially deadly consequences that can come from this

Edit: just a few points. Ive argued this enough if people care to go though it.

  1. I am not having a conversation over blame. Im not blaming nurses anymore than I am blaming executives here. I am making a point over the consequences of striking. For what its worth I am generally pro labor and believe in decomodifying healthcare.

  2. My arguement boils down to these two point, I choose 1:

1-Nurses cant strike and must negotiate through other means to get what they want resulting in fewer deaths.

2-Nurses go on strike, potentially getting what they want, but people die in the process.

  1. Please just be honest with yourselves.
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