Count_Joshoo t1_jdzhmq0 wrote

Except you are objectively wrong.

Edit: You did respond. You named multiple guys who had their best seasons after injuries, one guy who basically stopped being a running QB after one season (McNabb) and another who never was a running QB (Culpepper).

I bet you are like 20 and never watched Abby of these guys play. Three of them played for my team and I watched them all.


Count_Joshoo t1_jdxyelu wrote

This list is ignorant as hell. Did you just list black QBs? Randal had his best season after his injury and he had an actual offensive minded coach and weapons to throw too. Culpeper was not a running QB in any way, he was a lumbering giant who, coincidentally, also had incredible weapons to throw to. McNabb returned from his injury and had many productive years, bosltered by.....wait for influx of pass catching talent at the end of his Eagles tenure. RG3 had a freak leg injury and a coach who hated him and didn't want him. Cam also had a good and long career.

Are you trolling or do you really think you made a good point? Holy fuck dude.

Edit: Holy shit I forgot Vick, who returned from his injury in year three and went on to play 7 more productive seasons as a starter and 3 more as a backup, including the best football of his career when he....stop me if you heard this before....landed with offense minded coaches and tons of pass catching weapons.

Edit 2.0: You didn't read a single article I posted. Damn.


Count_Joshoo t1_jdx74os wrote

Andrews was a very good redzone target and a mediocre one everywhere else. And saying "they tried" doesn't and shouldn't matter to Lamar. The one that could play a tiny bit the dumped for nothing, and he was Lamar's best friend on the team. I don't think the Ravens have ever successfully drafted a WR.

The offense argument is also moot. That offense was designed to utilize his skills while he learned to be a pro style passer. IMHO he is perfectly capable of doing that now and deserves the weapons to throw too.

The money to build a team argument is also moot. They had his entire rookie deal to build a SB team and failed completely. Why should he trust that front office?

The injury point does have it's validity. I would argue that he quite likely could have played last year, but with his contact hanging over things I totally get why he choose to not play. The size issue is silly. He's almost the same size as Hurts. The Ravens also don't seem to like paying for pass protection. Again, why should he trust a front office that is still cashing in on it's old reputation?

As for the Watson comp, sure he played more games in his 3 years pre suspension than Lamar's last three, but.....Lamar won more games in that time with arguably lesser talent around him.

The anti-Lamar contingency is boarderline insane. He's a top ten QB with top 3 upside, he's a singular talent and a joy to watch.


Count_Joshoo t1_jdwo9lw wrote

He’s also never been give a legit pass catcher. His pocket passing is fine and it’s a disproven myth that mobile QBs get hurt more. No matter what excuses you give he’s a top ten QB and an entire offense by himself. While I get nobody wanting to give him a Watson deal the Ravens are not being smart about this.