DJ_Rand

DJ_Rand t1_ja2n73x wrote

This is correct. You should only be doing this, serving breadcrumbs with drizzle toppings, if literally both families are rich as shit and are used to that sort of thing, otherwise you will greatly disappoint the people that show up, especially if they have to go out of their way to reach the destination with no where else to get food, and your guests really shouldn't need to rely in getting food elsewhere if you are going to have them there most of the day.

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DJ_Rand t1_j6cfdf0 wrote

Agree with you. Furthermore, if someone is happy about something they are doing and just passively saying it such as "I'm providing such awesome stuff for this kiddo." Or "man I've been working hard, it's paying off" never view that as an attack on yourself. Sometimes it's a simple as a person just thinking about what they are doing and being happy about it.

What you don't want to do is tear someone down for doing a good thing. You're better off supporting their decision to do a good thing. Do not take someone providing and doing hard work for granted. This is supposed to go both ways. Build each other up, don't tear each other down.

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DJ_Rand t1_j6ce5w3 wrote

Dated a girl once where our work shifts differed, she basically would leave for work about 4 hours before I would. She also didn't like to get much sleep herself. Though she'd take a nap when she got home from work while I was still at work. We'd then spend the rest of the day together, and I'd wake up and keep her company when she was getting ready for work, and then I'd try to get a couple more hours of sleep before I had to leave for work.

By the end of the week, I'd be so tired from not having regular sleep, that on my days off I would pass out for about 10 hours... this upset her greatly, and she'd go off on me and stay mad for a day or so. Because I was sleeping...

That was the single most annoying thing I've ever dealt with.

Some people just want a reason to be upset.

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DJ_Rand t1_j1fqaln wrote

Nothing to do with afterlife. Its to emphasize that whatever is after death is likely what youll experience. You are arguing what many scientists consider wrong/impossible. That even though "you" reformed might be all the same atoms, which poses its own problems in transporting just the atoms alone, but many scientists believe the person that gets reformed isnt actually you. You would not be the teleported person. Itd be a new you. Pre-teleport you, dead. In the grand scheme, assuming you don't mind being dead, then you are right, it wouldn't matter and your clones wouldn't know the difference. I guess it just matters if you mind dying and letting a copy live in your place.

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DJ_Rand t1_j1fkhhl wrote

I don't think you comprehend the argument. The argument is that even though everything else may appear to be the same, and for all intents and purposes to everyone else obersving you it would be....

But the argument people are giving you is that what if YOU are completetly DEAD. Teleporting was just an incinerator that killed you, and something exactly like you was in your place on the other side.

The argument is whether or not you would wake up or not and still get to live your life. If i am dead and dont wake up, but something else gets to live as me, that kind of makes my life moot.

If a clone of me wakes up, but the real me is instead experiencing darkness forever because of death.... thats a big difference.

Your argument is simply "but if you wake up how would you know" the point everyone else is making to you is: what if you don't wake up, and something else is now living your life instead of you?

Do you underatand that last part? That youre dead? Something else gets to live your life, while the real you never got to experience it?

Youre stuck on: yeah but its your atoms. Everyone else is stuck on: Do I, my current stream of consciousness get to continue to exist or am i basically dead and a clone of me gets to live instead?

Those are two different things. And teleportation could be either one. We don't know. People will all accept doing it if there's a way to ensure you don't just simply die and have something else live on as you.

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DJ_Rand t1_j1fh2gj wrote

Moved = you are aware that youre still alive. Copied = you are dead, heaven, hell, eternal nothingness, etc.

Your copied clone wouldnt know the difference.

I unserstand your argument. But the copy isnt the same you. Its another person with your memories. You do not get to see through the copies eyes or control the copies body. You ceased to exist.

So to answer your question, no, we wouldnt know. Because we would simply die, and another version of us, which is not us, would live on in our place, thinking that it truly is us.

That's a fundamental difference.

Your question is basically: If you jumped off a bridge and died, but a demon got to walk around in your meat suit afterwards, looking like you, talking like you, acted like you... would you know?

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DJ_Rand t1_j1ffkzb wrote

It boils down to: How can you be sure that its you? If i teleport, but I'm dead, and another me is alive with my memories, that is a very significant difference. The difference is that everyone else thinks you are you but for the real you, you are dead, you don't wake back up. But there is another you that thinks they teleported and woke back up.

But "perfectly replicated" is a weird way to word it. If you truly mean replicated, that means copied. The real us would be dead, gone, never to awake as us again. If you mean "if your consciousness could be maintained and transfered as is without the originals death" then...

If that fear could be put aside and we could be sure that it is indeed us, and not just a clone with our atoms reconstructed, then it would be fine for most people probably.

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DJ_Rand t1_it6dxrn wrote

Reply to comment by Departedart in Ithaqua/Wendigo by Departedart

Hell yeah! Happy early birthday! October birthdays the best. Hope you have a great one! Any big plans? I pretty much just dealt with insurance and mechanics, played a few overwatch matches, and went out to dinner at a pizza ranch, then came home and watched a few horror(ish) movies.

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DJ_Rand t1_it6dcpe wrote

Reply to comment by Departedart in Ithaqua/Wendigo by Departedart

Yeah I'm fine. Happened at 10pm on the 18th. 2 hours from my birthday. Kind of made it difficult to be cheerful lol. But overall, yeah, just felt like hitting a really big pothole. Going to have to contact the city and see if I can get reimbursed somehow, though I'm sure they'll fight it.

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