Sea level rise!

Not doing it for you, sorry.

Not just while driving. Having greasy surfaces kills millions every year! Haven't you heard??

Why do you hate the children?

Great, now do you have any links showing this to be true? I stopped believing everything I read on social media years ago.

I'm offended by non-stop attempts to turn this into a police state where the police don't solve serious crimes. If you don't like ANY drinking, move to Saudi Arabia.

Until then, I want to see facts about how many accidents this would prevent, not more sanctimonious moralizing.

Ok, so if we aren't worried about accident rates, what is the actual issue here?

Facts please.

Nice change of subject, and a pivot to shame. Do you think we should abolish anything that increases accident rates or not?

How about driving with arguing kids in the back? I definitely think we should ban that. And I'm not providing any support either, just emptily implying anyone who disagrees is bad.

.08 does that. If you redefine drunk, the question is circular. Set it at .0001, you'll find even more "drunks".

There would need to be some strong science on this to convince me, and so far all I see is hysterical moralism, and by God, we're full up on that at the moment.

All the laws. Get the cops out there dealing with the difficult shit like assaults and homeless drug use, and not provide them with new ways of fucking with otherwise harmless citizens.

Because many, many social events, even religious events, involve imbibing small amounts of alcohol. If we're going this far, we should also make it illegal to eat in your car, listen to the radio or talk to passengers.

Drive to Hoquiam, turn north, and drive up the part of the coast that's in the National Park.

I wouldn't plan on driving to another state. Portland is the closest big city, and it's 3-4 hours away.

Check out the Olympic national park.

La Conner has a food bank:

La Conner Sunrise Food Bank (360) 488-3878

https://g.co/kgs/63Yw5b

In my experience (though it's been some years), food banks usually have some pet food. If not, they probably have tuna or canned chicken.

Or try dumpster diving behind a Petco.

I've been all over that park. That time of year, you're missing the reflective lakes and most of the wildlife. You're getting snow and a big beautiful mountain.

But if you're only going to spend a few days in April at a Washington national park, it's gotta be the Olympics. It's four times the size, and in full bloom that time of year.

It's huge and way better than Rainier anyway. Rainier is beautiful, but you can see it from half the state.

The Olympic NP is magic. But seeing the whole park requires a lot of driving. If you are wanting to just go to one place and stay in that area, try the Lake Quinault Area of the ONP.

That's too early in the season to properly experience Rainier or the NCNP. Either plan more for mid July or explore the much larger and cooler Olympic NP, which is mostly open year round (stay in Forks or Port Angeles).

Park at the Center, take the monorail across town, dinner at the Met.

No, I'm saying if you just don't buy a gun.

You could still change your mind if shit gets rough.

Welcome to SAD! Time to get a sun lamp.

The drive is half the fun!

American River guard station.

Or, if you want to try something truly rustic and memorable, the American River Lodge.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/okawen/null/recarea/?recid=58099&actid=88

The ONP is HUGE! Unlike many other national parks (we've been to 32) there is no way to drive through the middle of the park, as there is a mountain range there. So there is no central lodge or place from which to see the entire park.

As such, I would suggest driving around the park and staying in several different places over the course of your trip.

Day 1: Fly into SeaTac airport. Drive south to Tacoma. Spend two nights in Tacoma (I recommend the McMenamin's Elk's Lodge).

Day 2: Drive EAST and visit Mt. Rainier NP. Mt Rainier is much smaller and can be seen in a day or two. Go early, check out the peak at Sunrise at sunrise, and get in a good hike.

Day 3-4: Bid farewell to Tacoma and drive across the Tacoma Narrows bridge. Your destination: Lake Quinault. This is one of the major rainforested areas of the park, and home to some of the biggest trees, almost as large as the redwoods in California. There is a terrific drive up a river through the rainforest, and some amazing hikes. I'd recommend the Quinault Lodge.

Day 5: West to 101, then north to Kalaloch. This is a huge part of the Washington coast that is protected within the park. Pristine and natural coastlines. Here you'll find Kalaloch Lodge, which has cabins overlooking the coast from a bluff.

Day 6: Forks. Bleh. But the Hoh rainforest is here, and perhaps the best short hikes in America through a forest that seems ripped from a fantasy novel.

Day 7: North to Lake Crescent, staying in one of the main towns in the area: Sequim, Port Angeles or Port Townsend. I prefer port Townsend, and would recommend staying in the historic officer's house at Fort Flageler state park, which has a great beach into the strait, and some really interesting hikes through old WW2 era naval battlements. From here, drive up to Hurricane Ridge for spectacular views and more hiking.

Day 8: Iconic ferry ride back to Seattle (or better, Edmonds) in the morning. Then either explore Seattle a bit or head down to the airport.

There's a few other points of interest you can add in, like the Sol Duc hot springs, Port Gamble, the San Juan islands, whale watching or even the third national park in the Area, the North Cascades; they are all within reach. But this will give you a pretty thorough ONP trip.

Good luck!