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DevAnalyzeOperate t1_jbgt236 wrote

You are literally describing how data scientists can systemically modify behaviour while denying that they can lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Nobody would pay data scientists a cent if they couldn't get people to click on the advertising links they wanted them to click on at the end of the day. Their purpose is manipulation on the behest of moneyed interests (and potentially national interests). That's the game - behaviour modification - but I guess it's easier to retain staff when they believe a lie.

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DevAnalyzeOperate t1_jbgb3y3 wrote

What are you even talking about? Did you even read the linked story? Do you know ANYTHING about why TikTok is in hot water and the problems people have with it?

My problem in this case is obviously national security in the context of spying, otherwise I wouldn't single out TikTok. I suppose being able to use TikTok as a propaganda machine to brainwash the public is possible too, their data scientists brainwash people into clicking on ads for products and services, it shouldn't be conceptually impossible to brainwash people into for instance clicking on links to Chinese propaganda. Those guys are the real brainwashers of society, not pathetic has-been religions.

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DevAnalyzeOperate t1_jbdxin9 wrote

The main reason I wanted to do this was because of Forbes reporting on TikTok spying on journalists. https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/12/22/tiktok-tracks-forbes-journalists-bytedance/?sh=607f09b47da5

I'll also point out that if you're concerned about the free market - why are you more concerned with this potential ban in America than the ongoing ban of YouTube and Twitter and Facebook and Google in China? A free market doesn't exist and there is a one sided trade barrier. Also banning a business that's a competitor to a western business, even doing that explicitly for that reason, particularly when china has already enacted similar trade barriers (thus meaning there would be no breaking of any treaty under international law) can indeed be enforceable and legal. If you ban TikTok from the mainstream it won't have the nessecary content and social network to survive.

In terms of being ethical/moral/reasonable, my concern is actually the impact it would have on younger generations, I don't know why the fuck anybody would be concerned about what Meta thought about the issue. TikTok is a massive part of youth culture. These are all subjective things though. all I can say is objectively keeping China in control of the social media platform most western youth use is objectively a huge intelligence boon as well as an economic and military advantage.

The biggest argument I will give against the sale is that China already moved their datacenters to the US so it might simply be overkill to also force them to say, divest TikTok to a US owned entity in exchange for a payout.

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DevAnalyzeOperate t1_j97b089 wrote

Lol complicated? Elon removed the censorship, and thus he removed the discrimination. This woman was part of the system to justify the perpetuation of discrimination and censorship. Not all that complicated. The complications you refer to are a bunch of bullshit.

If I'm going to do apologetics, Elon threw tens of billions of dollars down to end this discrimination which may have best gone towards better causes, and she didn't really have any opportunity to end discrimination like Elon could due to his stacks of cash, so one can see her as doing the best she could have done given the opportunity she had. But for her to act like what she was doing was somehow morally better than what's happening now mostly reflects the fact she's morally disgusting as are her pro-discrimination pro-censorship supporters.

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DevAnalyzeOperate t1_j92bzxs wrote

Her job was nonsense, her job was algorithm biaser, she biased algorithms so they wouldn’t hit non-majorities, musk came in and stripped the “toxic speech identification” and removed bias against all groups entirely. I don’t care if you claim to be benefiting white hetero Christian’s or trans black folx, by putting your finger on the scale of algorithms, you’re picking favourites.

She was paid to perpetuate something fundamentally unethical, good riddance, how lame do you have to be for Elon Musk of all people to be more ethical than you?

Those who want to regulate social media into mandatory discrimination are fucking evil by the way and if anything is this about as good as an argument for self-regulation as you are going to get.

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DevAnalyzeOperate t1_iwjtwrv wrote

It really doesn’t cost that much to have chips assembled in America, either to the business or a consumer. Semiconductors are just a cutthroat business and these CEOs would murder their grandmother for a quarter. American wages wouldn’t cause your Macbook to be more than a few bucks more expensive.

A lot of problems with America is that it’s just not very good lol. Arizona is a great location for a plant that relies on water, America can’t get shit built in general, and its local talent pool has been gutted since software was paying more than double the salary semiconductors we’re paying for years.

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DevAnalyzeOperate t1_itejt7u wrote

Nobody cares lol and while people hate this legislation in general, literally nobody could give less of a fuck about a meta boycott.

If anything this is probably a political win for the people pushing the legislation. I mean that sincerely, I don't think Meta really understands how it's perceived. If I were in Meta's shoes I would lay it on thick with the astroturfing, I wouldn't be publicly opposed lol.

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