Donutduchess

Donutduchess t1_iuis4z0 wrote

I never said I didn't generalize in fact I said I my only generalizarion was about women.

You didn't catch me in anything. I said I generalized women and you in fact showed that.

Your quotes dismantle your entire stance. I never attacked men. I never generalized men. I never accused OP bf of being a selfish lover.

I DID generalize and say women get bs copiute directed at the about their lack of orgasms.

My only mention of men in any context is like I said before about the manosphere which is a subset of men and even smaller population as it is about specific online spaces. Like damn dude you see me talk about a specific online group of men and boom that's generalizing all/most men...wtf

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Donutduchess t1_iuipvw2 wrote

I never said it was a slight to women.

I did say this line is touted mostly/only to women. And pointed out how you say this while so upset at the notion of her not going out of her way to give him orgasms.

I never lobbied any accusation about OP's boyfriend. The only thing I said was if he wanted X he would ask for X.

The only sweeping statement I have made is just now when I said your line is something mostly/only directed to women.

It's really odd you trying to twist this as me generalizing men or attacking men when the only gender I generalized was just now and it's women.🤣

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Donutduchess t1_iuin7im wrote

I never said this individual was a selfish lover. In fact I never stated anyone was a selfish lover.🤨

I did say if he wanted X he would ask for X so don't worry about his wants instead focus on consent and your enjoyment.

Funny how quality sexual experience doesn't mean an orgasm is only/mostly directed at women. If sexual experience isn't relegated to orgasm achievement then you shouldn't be so upset about me advising her not to focus on his orgasms for sexual acts he never asked for. Yet here you are seemingly upset she is not going out of her way to please him.

What you have done for the record is irrelevant as nowhere did I call you out specifically in my response. Your defensiveness is misplaced and odd. I didn't accuse you of anything. I didn't accuse all men of anything. Heck my only mention of men is a specific subset aka manosphere and the turnaround of her orgasm is her responsibility.

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Donutduchess t1_iuhv5si wrote

I find it's because women want a partner to be intimate with and share/build a life with.

Men generally see women as possessions. It's a battle/war/game to acquire a possession so her no is default mode. They don't care about a partner who genuinely wants him because in their mind women don't know what they want or if she wants someone that isn't him she is wrong because as a woman she doesn't know what is good for her. Men view relationships as about what he wants which is why they're often blindsided in breakups or claim it came out of the blue since he was happy he didn't see her unhappiness because it didn't matter.

It's a good thing you don't pursue someone who said no or is disinterested. You don't want to have to coerce or convince someone to date you.

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Donutduchess t1_iuhul0i wrote

He hasn't asked for it so don't worry. If he wants something sexually then he can ask.

As the manosphere loves to tout about women 'his orgasm is his responsibility'.. and I'm quite sure he is orgasming everytime during sex. So he's doing awesome. Heck society tells women to just enjoy the journey and she doesn't need an orgasm so he is doing way better than most women.

Never worry about being selfish about sexual activity with a man. Only concern yourself with his consent and your pleasure.

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Donutduchess t1_iuhky0z wrote

It's unreasonable your bf is trying to force you to engage this person rather than simply be cordial.

I have only seen this type of force in two scenarios

  1. Guy friend is a pos and the gf not wanting to hang out with him makes the bf feel guilty about what a pos his friend is. The bf can overlook the pos traits because the guy friend is good at X game or childhood friends but when his gf doesn't hang out with him then he feels guilty that his excuses aren't enough to overlook the pos traits.

  2. Girl friend who is gay/bi and is very very touchy and does provocative stuff. The bf often has a crush on the girl friend and wants his gf to befriend her in hopes they will do girl on girl OR he gets a threesome.

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Donutduchess t1_iuhkkty wrote

Ignore the downvotes. Reverse the genders and redditors will hop onto she is cheating.

This is reddit home of the pity a rapist thread.

Heck it was deemed cheating when a woman who went to a work party and didn't update her bf every hour despite answering all his calls.

Men get a huge delusional benefit of the doubt here. There have been stories of women finding underwear in their bf/husband's bed and shit ton of excuses come out.

In fact men are so used to this delusional benefit of the doubt they often feel victimized if they're words aren't automatically seen as facts and their intentions aren't instantly deemed 100% good.

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