Fair enough. The sad thing is, what you’re speaking about leads men to following Tate’s toxic belief, which goes back to why I think this video is important in today’s online landscape.

But in his view, “being a man” consists of subjugating women. Maybe it’s borderline equivalent to what you’re referring to as “toxic feminism.” They can both be wrong (and I would argue are). Why believe one is worse than the other? Both systems hinge on lowering the value of the other human being. Male toxicity is more so now being normalized and accepted due to a backlash of female empowerment (maybe) solely because men are feeling emasculated by their loss of power. Why argue that this doesn’t exist or, even worse, that it is more acceptable.

Edit: wish I could provide a link where you could watch the vid. Sadly, I’m constrained by the limits of the internet.

The ones displayed by Tate in this very video(duh, no?)

Some beliefs are more harmful (outwardly) than others, no?

I would say the only system to believe in is “to do unto others.” all other belief systems are inherently problematic and the systems Tate and other opportunists offer are even worse. That’s the point - full stop.

Not classifying tate as a religion (though I think he tries to operate on the same wavelength). Merely was trying to illustrate just because some parts may ring true, that does not excuse the other parts that are exclusionary or ask for dogmatic belief at the the detriment of others’ well-being. Yes there are parts of belief systems that feel true, but you must recognize and not excuse (because of the small truths) those parts which are inherently problematic.

Edit: anti-toxic feminism…I get that. But it doesn’t excuse the swing back to supreme toxic masculinity. Watch the doc - this stuff screams of men afraid of losing control over women and afraid of being emasculated.

Would you consider every part of any religion to be true? Just because some of it strikes a chord does not mean there isn’t a huge fault inherent to the ideology - I’ll say this again, watch the video and you’ll quickly see the ingrained issues in tate’s philosophy- I know nothing of Peterson, but am guessing there are similar issues.

Wow…you REALLY need to watch this doc. But I’m guessing you wont. Good luck out there

Edit: this comment (one I’m replying to) is like the epitome of the problem with the philosophy depicted in the video and again a great example of why this doc is important

This is exactly why I feel this doc is so important. It shows the danger and also how behind it all is solely someone seeking to profit off of these vulnerable people.

See my response to another comment.

It’s more about the radicalizing of men online - which I would argue is one of the biggest issues facing the digital and social landscape. Maybe watch to fully understand?

Edit: would love to hear your opinion on the level of importance on that issue

There Will Be Blood - absolutely sold me on the film and I drove over an hour to the nearest city showing it so I could see it in theaters.