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DugganSC t1_j6fy8t7 wrote

I listened to an interesting article about that and why it's so hard. For example, I didn't know that there was a maximum speed for the plows before which they're just traveling faster, not removing more snow, or at least that it was so slow. Also, well, snow doesn't go away when you plow it, so yeah, it is just displacing it to someone else.

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DugganSC t1_ixsqn6b wrote

Leaving aside that there's two different religions involved... claiming that the white Catholic people went to their Catholic church instead of the black Methodist one is a bit like completing that the basketball players refuse to play in the racquetball room. They're similar spaces, but not the same.

I mean, the Catholic church probably got to stay in part due to white skin and money, but linking the two regions together as interchangeable wouldn't win you fans on either side.

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DugganSC t1_ixs0rd0 wrote

Pip and Lola's Soap and Sundries can cover you there too. The owner does art to relax after the soap making. You can find some of the examples on their website.

You might also check out the Bantha Bar on Penn Avenue. They don't do art themselves, but they consistently put up examples from artists in the area of works that they want to sell.

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DugganSC t1_ixqfhva wrote

> Oh & if you have younger children or a family don't fkn do this travelling shit. Not just bc benefits are nonexistent basically but bc the life it affords will fuck your kids up forever - ask me how I know.

In your mother's defense, this used to be the standard for a lot of men back in the day, out most of the week traveling for the company, maybe see the kids on weekends, c.f. the traveling salesman, truckers, or the Wichita Lineman. Admittedly, standards weren't white the same back then in terms of men being expected to have an emotional connection with their children.

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DugganSC t1_ivh7k6v wrote

shrug Dunno. Election coverage is easy to find, and a lot of people will likely be stepping out of their workplace at 5:00 or 6:00 p.m., and trying to make that final decision as to whether they want to make the effort. I could list a few cases I've known of people who made that last minute decision not to head to the polls, but the plural of anecdote isn't data.

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DugganSC t1_ivh6l9w wrote

Honestly? No. It's one of those things I grew up hearing, which seemed to make sense. Doing a quick search turns up papers like "Do exit polls influence voting behaviors?" which are locked behind pay walls, but the excerpts seemed to indicate that there is an effect scene, albeit a small one, on West Coast voting based upon East Coast exit poll results.

As someone who has studied political science, presumably you may have better access to those scholarly articles than I do.

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DugganSC t1_ivgxm9q wrote

> Maybe that's the argument but I've seen nothing to suggest that it is actually true. I don't even understand what the mechanism for "influence" is here - if people see the vote going one way it seems just as likely to encourage them to vote as not. The argument seems pretty half-baked.

If voting were zero cost, it probably wouldn't, but most people have to take time off of work, arrange for transport, get childcare, etc. And if it looks like a bygone conclusion, why bother?

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DugganSC t1_ivg8twi wrote

I think the argument is basically that, if early results are revealed, it could influence the election. Supposedly, there is already a similar effect where West Coast voting drops as the East Coast areas come back with preliminary results. People figure that the election is already over, since one side has a higher count, so they don't bother voting. Arguably, if all of these vote results are kept secret, there would be no effect like that. However, they are proceeding from the assumption that security is bad, and therefore they probably suspect that such preliminary results would get leaked.

As it is, I feel like our current method of news sources reporting exit polls as if they were actual numbers is somewhat deceptive, and manipulative.

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