DukeofVermont

DukeofVermont t1_j72z8b6 wrote

I work in flood restoration and I see it pretty often, but it's usually on older pipes from the 1960s or older. The most interesting ones are when the water or minerals in the water have worn through the corner of the pipe.

The ones that I've seen pop off or separate are due to poor installation.

But also you have to think about how often the above occurs compared with how many joints exist. Something can be both incredibly rare and happen consistently. As in a failure rate of .05% is great , but .05% of 1,000,000 is still 500.

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DukeofVermont t1_ix2hrww wrote

Hey nothing wrong at all with having personal relaxation time. Like I said I love slow complex movies but I can't watch them all the time, just too taxing and not what I want to do after a long day.

I also think it really depends on what you are looking for. I love reading because I can really connect with characters, and find it interesting to explore how they think/feel/etc and I like loooong books because you can spend so much time with the characters.

I wouldn't say you're missing out because it might not be your thing and that's a-okay. It's like food, some people love to try new things, challenge their tastes/ideas of what food can be, explore textures, flavors, etc. But it's perfectly fine if you are not a food person and like sticking to what you like.

That said it's hard to know if you are "a gourmet" or "a cinephile" or love classic literature until you try it with an open mind. No one is ever too old to try new things and if it isn't for you there is nothing wrong with that. I love complex Lit/Film but oh boy do I have no interest in modern art. I've tried to get into it, and I can learn and understand what they are going for but I just don't like it and have zero interest in it. It's just not my thing.

I'd suggest figuring out what types of shows/films you like and find an old classic book that's on the same topic. Also not all old books are "hard art" for the snobs like me. Just like how not all new books are "easy art".

Agatha Christie's crime mysteries and Sherlock Holmes were/are the popular media of their day. Agatha Christie is the most successful author of all time with over two BILLION sales (she's only behind the Bible). Her play "The Mousetrap" opened in 1951 and has played continually ever since (but stopped for a year due to corona). They are somewhere close to the 28,000 performance now. I think they both are great because they are engaging and can really pull you in as you try to figure out what happened.

Lastly I should say that it's also super dumb shove everything into the two boxes of "easy" and "hard" art because we all know it's much more on a spectrum. But it is important to try new things, challenge ourselves and explore what it is to be human.

So try new things, but don't feel bad if it isn't for you. The world would be a boring place if we all had the same interests and tastes.

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DukeofVermont t1_ix2fo58 wrote

I think not pushing is key and properly introducing things. It's the same for literally everything, you start small and learn, but for some reason a lot of people just are thrown in the deep end of literature and hate it because they got pushed.

I think my love of classic lit is because I had an amazing 75 year old high school teacher who taught British Lit. He was super chill, it was all he taught, he was a great teacher and you knew he loved it. He did a great job explaining and introducing things so Shakespeare wasn't just reading it to read it.

It's a world of difference being introduced to something by someone who can explain, is excited and can answer questions vs my junior year English teacher who just assigned books and spent 50% of class talking about his old high school sports achievements (no joke, I hated him) and no one cared at all about anything we read.

I also taught ESL in NYC and I had my class read a simplified version of Frankenstein and they loved it. I was really surprised how well they took to it. They though the simplified Dr. J and Mr. Hyde was just okay in comparison.

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DukeofVermont t1_iwz1ro8 wrote

That's the dumbest rule I've ever heard. I would say that most people won't like it because they are not used to books written like Moby Dick.

It's the same reason that a lot of people HATE reading LOTR. It's slow, boring, has too many details, reads like a textbook, etc etc etc.

There is nothing wrong with the book, it's just different from what people are used to and makes them work. That second part is important because I think it's what separates good art from great art. Art that engages you, brings you in and makes you think will always be better than art that is easy to digest. Now it's vital to understand that easy art is still art and just as valuable. Filet Minion for breakfast everyday would make me puke and I'd gouge my eyes out if I had to watch 2001: A Space Odyssey every week. But when you are in the right mood and want it? It's amazing and far better then a bowl of cereal or re-watching Captain America: Winter Solider (both of which I really enjoy).

A lot of people only consume easy art and so when art (film, poetry, theater, literature, dance and even paintings and sculpture) doesn't just tell them what to think or feel they get bored and drop it. If you try to watch/read a deep film/book like you would a Tom Clancy book or a Marvel film you'll hate it. You'll miss the forest for the trees. You'll never actually understand what really going on because you only see the character actions and nothing else. "It's so boring!" is the complaint I hear the most when trying to get people to read or watch amazing things that are not paced like a Marvel film.

I personally love classic lit and classic films. So much amazing work is overlooked by many people because it is old, slower paced or made with a different purpose. A book like Moby Dick has depth and when read thoughtfully you can get a lot more out of it than just a book about a man explaining whaling and his crazy captain hunting a white whale.

I think the "don't read it if you are under 40" is idiotic but younger people have so much easy art that they haven't seen yet. A lot of people just indulge in the easy art, but by the time they are 40+ they get sick of it. Like eating candy everyday as a kid is awesome but when you are older it is gross, and there is so much better stuff out there anyway. So you turn 40 and want something new and deeper and read Moby Dick and actually engage with it whereas someone younger might just get bored and drop it.

Personally I think Moby Dick is average for the great books from the 1800s. It's much better IMHO than Les Mis, or War and Peace, but no where close to Crime and Punishment, Middlemarch, or Tom Sawyer. I'd put it in the same level as Madame Bovary, Anna Karenina and The Count of Monte Cristo. (also this is very much my personal taste and not me trying to say which is objectively better or worse).

TLDR: I've read a lot of "classic lit" so I know what to expect when I start reading but a lot of people go in blind after being told "it's amazing!" and are not ready for how different books can be.

Personally I love deeper books which really are about so much more than what happens on the page. When you can get into them it's really like nothing else. Some of my favorites are: On the Beach-Nevil Shute 1957 (post-apocalyptic survivors of nuclear war in Australia), Solaris-Stanisław Lem 1961 (Scientists try to communicate with an alien that's the size/shape of our oceans, but on a different plant so it remakes their dead loves ones). Crime and Punishment-Fyodor Dostoevsky 1866 (a man struggles to live with the effects of being a murderer), The Forever War-Joe Haldeman 1977 (a sci-fi war book that's really about the effects of coming home from Vietnam). Slaughterhouse Five-Kurt Vonnegut (a man experiences life out of order because of aliens aka finding meaning after seeing the horrors of WWII) and a light one The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy-Douglas Adams 1970s-80s - It's just silly, hilarious, funny and amazing. I love that book so much.

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