EccoEco

EccoEco t1_iuhhb32 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in [I Ate] A New York slice by girouxfilms

Oh here we come... Out little keyboard lion has come to show his colours eh? My "country" pal got some problems with my "country", Who would have guessed that someone that so easily calls in an entire nationality for the mistakes of one would also have some yikey feelings towards that nationality's right of self identification or even some nice ideas about "National character" or some other bogus concept... We didn't drive anyone anywhere, it was a time of scarcity and the most vulnerable sections of some areas's population, and not only here in Italy and not just in the South but to be fair I don't expect you to be exactly an authority on history at this point, choose to take their chances with the new world.

That said the reason why among all italian emigrant Communities the american One has been hit the hardest both culturally and economically is not really our fault at least not ours only, the reason has to be searched in america's own quite heavy xenophobia and anti catholic and generally anti non-wasp sentiment that was prominent at the times and... Now too in a certain quantity I might suppose.

From racial ghettisation all the way to a precise desire to keep such immigrants ignorant so that they might remain an easily exploitable workforce incapable to react to it's surroundings accordingly, dear pal I can assure you this is all black and White in any history or anthropology books that gives an even basic portrayal of the american immigrant societies of the time, which actually if you'd allow me to go off topic for a second I personally had to study for my academic pursuits.

So what's to say, seems that particular sentiment is still quite alive ain't it eh? So tbf if today Italians have problems recognizing Italo americans as their own folk It could be easily said that, although a non negligible part to our own fault, It also comes from anglo american quite dirty past of ethnic segregation.

For what concerns the comment I edited it because I did understand that I had gone to far, I am perfectly capable of understanding that I am way far from perfect and more often than not can end up saying stupid things, can you?

Well what else can I say, on behalf of me and my "nation" A mai piĆ¹ rivederci

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EccoEco t1_iudt6er wrote

Reply to comment by Gengarth0 in [I Ate] A New York slice by girouxfilms

Why would what I said be "stupid" or even completely false and how would that in your opinion be a constant? If you were to ask me, and not only me as it seems, to eat that pizza I would not be very inclined, could I have kept that to myself, yes it would have been wiser and I wouldn't have to be here to discuss this inanity with you.

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EccoEco t1_iuavurl wrote

Reply to comment by Drach88 in [I Ate] A New York slice by girouxfilms

Which is something that americans bring up only when It's convenient to them, now I am sorry, as I said I should have held my tongue, but it's simply true, due to many reasons, quality of ingredients, usage and quantity of oil and fats, and many other factors, american style pizza is almost universally going to look cheap when compared to the original. Sorry for having stated it, I really am, damn I should have known better not to hit this hornet nest, but honesty at this point why not take a chip off my shoulder can you imagine if all country were this much entitled when it came to their own version of foreign food? Damn, for example, although this is not as wellknown by nonitalians, italian migration didn't just happen in the states, the Southern American Talianos exist too, and tbf not only Is their food much better but we are in much better relationship with them due to the much less adversarial nature of our relationship.

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EccoEco t1_iuao1lt wrote

Reply to comment by Gengarth0 in [I Ate] A New York slice by girouxfilms

Pal, it's the simple truth, I might have kept it to myself that is indeed true, an impolite indiscretion on my part quite so, but can you really disprove me? Are you really going to tell me, an italian, what italian food is supposed to be like?

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