They can’t consent, they’re cows. They’re food. It’s how we get milk and dairy products. Vegan alternatives are heavily dependent on soy, gluten and nuts. The three largest allergens there are so some vegan alternatives aren’t viable for everyone. There are environmental impacts for dairy and meat alternatives, as well. Dairy is extremely easy to get as it’s widely available, it’s not the only way to get it, for sure.

I understand your position, I don’t agree. There’s dairy industry propaganda I agree with that. You don’t think your position is anchored in privilege, though? Like you’ve got the ability to “expose” the dairy industry through using inflammatory language and representing standard industry practices as “rape” and “stealing”. That’s your perspective.

I see cows and other animals as living beings, but I also see them as food. You’re free to look at others that consume meat and dairy products as supporters of animal abuse, I don’t agree.

Okay, Now what? I don’t find any of that as reprehensible as you do. It’s how it works. My family have been dairy farmers for generations. They operate in co-ops up in Wisconsin. Milk, cheese, meat, it’s food. These animals shouldn’t be mistreated, and at the same time phrasing routine processes in dairy production in that way comes off as manipulative.

You feel how you feel about it. I’m not going to invalidate those feelings. We have to accept at some point some people have made the decision to continue consuming animal products, despite knowing how the “sausage is made” so to speak. Death is part of it. Artificial insemination is part of it. You’ve made your choice, and are sticking to your principles, please respect other’s choices to do so.

Why word it that way? They artificially inseminate the cows, it’s not rape. They do it for about 4 years, then they’re sent to slaughter.

Forcefully inseminate….

Who the fuck is justifying the rape of animals? If we’re speaking broadly it’s always been used as an excuse to do those things if we include people in the equation….but Jesus fucking Christ.