I’ve had this discussion a thousand times already…. You continue to mischaracterize Israel’s defensive actions as conquest, which is what was attempted by their enemies. You mischaracterize as conquest how Israel came to exist; the territory was granted by the previous owner, the British, who took it from the Ottomans, who took it from…, who took it from the Jews. You claim that Israel is undemocratic when it’s the only fucking democracy in the entire fucking region and, although as imperfect as any other democracy, uses that government to protect the rights of its citizens to a far greater extent than any other country in the region, including the fifth of the population who are Arabs who enjoy far greater rights than any other Arab in any other Arab nation.

The fact is that you know all of this. You twist your words to fit your antisemitic narrative. You take advantage of the fact that those who respond to you feel the need to use words responsibly. I will not be responding to any more of your replies. I’ve given you more of my time and energy than an antisemite deserves.

So, what? You’re complaining that the Israelis got their land the same way literally every other country in the entirety of history did? Except it’s only the Jews who are evil because of it? Wtf is your problem if not antisemitism?

I love how your response begins with excusing the Jews getting displaced from land that was theirs and ends with mischaracterizing how Jews got it back. As though it was taken by force and not given by the British, who owned it. As though the Jews who moved there didn’t purchase land. As though there weren’t any Jews still living there. Then you lament that Syria, which never made any overtures to leave Israel in peace and used the strategic high-ground that is the Golan Heights to terrorize the Israelis living below, somehow deserved to get that land back. Wouldn’t it be easier to just admit that you’re a fucking anti-Semite? You twist yourself in knots to justify Jews getting fucked when I already explained that’s never fucking going to happen again. Never forget. And if the people of the West Bank have to live in semi-occupation (1% of which are settlements) to ensure that Israelis can live in relative peace, then so-fucking-be-it.

Romans took over - colonized, if you will.

> So Italians could claim they own Britain and just take over someones home then?

What???

> Gtfo with that bullshit logic please, it's pathetic

What are you on about?

I think you meant to say Judea.

> I mean "it's their ancestorial homeland" doesn't much anything. A Kingdom of Israel existed in the 700s BC sure but plenty of other people of other ethnic backgrounds lived and settled in this area before during and after the period that was dominated by people of the Jewish faith. Why don't they have a claim to the area as well as their own ancestorial homeland?

This seems rather disingenuous since they were forced to leave.

> “The main thing that Israelis focus on is never again allowing ethnic Jews to be without a homeland or subject to extermination.” This kind of highlights the contradictions in the stated purpose and values of Israel. It's supposed to be a democratic state AND a Jewish state, but in order to make and preserve it as a Jewish state it's had to do some very undemocratic things. Not least of all was promoting immigration en masse to the British Mandate of Palestine before and after the Balfour Declaration. In essence an act of colonialism as the British never gave the people living there any say in the matter and the Jewish immigrants didn't care to ask either. These anti democratic actions were necessary to make the area majority Jewish.

More disingenuous statements. Balfour was in 1917, well before Israel gained independence. It also highlights how people love to claim, without any irony, how undemocratic Israel is while pointing to their alleged victims, who are not even close to being free, democratic states, and are also massively guilty of colonialism. Also, who has Israel colonized?

> And today of course you have the conquest and settlement of the Golan Heights and West Bank, which Israel clearly intents to annex.

What fucking conquest? Israel was attacked, gained control of those areas, which are strategically important for the security of the country, and offered them back in exchange for the simple concessions of accepting their existence.

> Whenever Israel has had to choose between it's Jewish identity and it's democratic identity it's always chosen the Jewish identity.

First of all, those things are not mutually exclusive. Second of all, when has that choice ever been made?

Israel is a majority secular country. It’s less “God’s decree” and more of the fact that it’s their ancestral homeland, dating back many thousands of years, before Jesus allegedly existed and before Mohammad allegedly had his revelations. The main thing that Israelis focus on is never again allowing ethnic Jews to be without a homeland or subject to extermination.

Fuck the police. Biggest gang in the US.

The Democratic People’s Republic of the United States

Oh yeah? It’s not like the writing hasn’t been on the walls for years. The joke used to be that they were so desperate for content that they’d greenlight anything. Now their quantity over quality strategy is backfiring and they’re known for canceling anything before it has a chance to become popular. The executives at Netflix are misunderstanding their customers’ behaviors, which is obvious if you’ve ever read through any posts about shows that are canceled. Who wants to invest in watching a show when it might be canceled before it’s conclusion? Sometimes they don’t even adequately market shows. How can a show become “popular” when too few people know it exists?

Guess that makes Ted a liar now, don’t it