i mean yeah it prob wont play a youtube video for 4 straight hours but it gets me through the day. i avg about 6 hours of screen time a day which takes me to about 30% after 16 hours. im mostly on reddit/browsing/playing music throughout that time. the 2nd gen battery life was abysmal imo, 3rd gen really isnt so bad.

refurb iphone se 3rd gen all day. the cameras between the two phones are basically the same, iphone mini has the ultrawide as well.

my opinion is if youre upgrading from the 1st gen se, you should get the third as its astronomically cheaper than the iphone 13 mini. i paid $250 for mine from amazon. youll be happy with the upgrade either way though.

why does everyone sleep on the se? its a great phone. id pick the 3rd gen se over those older phones all day.

iphone se 3rd gen

$250. has the latest chipset.

the 2nd gen is $150 right now. amazon renewed is a really good service. i dont know how it happened but the one i received was. brand new, just not in apple packaging.

white is my favorite. apple products dont feel the same to me unless theyre white. its just a nostalgia thing, i went through a few ipods. i still run an old ipod classic.