1. my bad i should have been clearer , i should have said the reason it’s still talked about and used is because it’s incredibly timeless and still applies today 2. Maybe you are right, but i still think if i implemented stoicism in my life i would limit what i’m able to achieve but i can’t speak for anyone else

Isn’t the whole point of stoicism how it’s relevant in modern and ancient society? Also you say this as though people are born as scientists and will always become them, albert einstein could have easily not been a scientist if he was a stoic at those lectures not question the things deemed ad obvious set truths and instead living in accordance to them

then why was stoicism founded by driven and smart people if it doesn’t apply to them

Don’t you think that anyone can achieve something they thought to be impossible because they actually put their mind to it and didn’t go “oh well it’s too hard/ not in my control bether just deal with it”

a thing about stoicism i’ve always had a bone to pick with is the idea that what you cannot control you do not need to think about.

The quest to control that perceived as ‘uncontrollable’ is the leading cause for human benchmarks and achievements.