Yeah, the Jet and Gulf streams are serious causes for concerns, and would absolutely play havoc with the world that we know.

I'm just of the opinion that our technology will insulate us against the worst of it. I could easily be wrong, in fact history says I likely will be.

We've experienced collapses in civilization and 'dark ages' because of climate change at least once before, the Bronze Age.

I think our current civilization is both more resilient than ancient cultures, and at the same time much more fragile. Our technology should make it considerably more difficult to experience a significant collapse, but once it starts I think we we would be much worse off than previous civilizations.

Billions would die from stuff we take for granted on a daily basis.

Fort Myers Beach! That's intense. I'm glad you and yours are doing well, because I've never seen anything like Fort Myers Beach after Ian.

As a kid I remember driving through Homestead after Andrew, and I don't remember the kind of devastation I saw on the beach.

A close call is probably more accurate. I live on the gulf side and Cuba acts like an enormous shield normally. Most Hurricane's gut themselves on Cuba's mountains and fail to regain enough strength to really be a threat to my area of the gulf coast.

However, occasionally they linger in the gulf for a crazy amount of time and then slam into my neck of the woods, like Ian did.

Honestly, Ian wouldn't have been awful had it not been moving so slow. 6-8 hours of sustained category 4+ winds is what did it (if you didn't get storm surged). My house didn't start taking wind damage till well after the 4 hour mark.

Fort Myers or Sannibel? I'm in Fort Myers, just south of downtown, and we had storm surge coming down our street, but luckily no water in the house.

Ian was the worst storm I've seen in my 40 years in FL.

I'm really sorry for you loss.

Ian was the worst storm I've seen in my 40 years.. I've never evacuated for any of them, but I definitely turned to my wife as the storm surge was rolling down my street and said "we probably should've gone to my sisters..."

Dodged.. Ian didn't feel like a dodge from Fort Myers, FL!

Weather would have to become pretty apocalyptic on a pretty frequent scale to really decimate trade.. I'm not saying we wouldn't see a slow down, or enhanced costs, but a complete collapse of global trade? That feels like a stretch.

Trade routes connecting much of the world have existed for thousands of years, during times when the means to traverse such distances was fraught with peril.

I think our technology is gonna be a pretty enormous mitigating factor too, especially as we continue to creep towards more and more automation.

It’s one of the better examples of the dangers of Nepotism..

I saw a statue of good ol’ Commodus last time I was in Rome. He was depicted as Hercules, as was apparently his thing…