GekkosGhost

GekkosGhost t1_je4s5bl wrote

>the UK tore down a lot of the prior existing cities or never rebuilt them after WW2 so that they could make way for the same type of development that America did

Lol. No we didn't. We revbuilt Coventry because it got flattened but every city we had at the start we had by the end.

MK we tried around your planning, with mixed results. But that was a new city.

>You know what is miserable? Sitting in traffic and wasting my life away every day

Self driving motorhomes will fix that.

>Not being able to walk like we were naturally born to do in order to pick up something to eat or buy groceries. The

I've just got back from a walk into town (the one I live in rather than work in). Traffic didn't stop you walking you just stay on the pavement.

>Pedestrians getting mowed over by cars

Most pedestrians cause the accident they're involved in. Very few get stuck on the footpath.

Same with cyclists which is why so few motorists are persecuted despite almost every cyclist having video evidence of their accident.

>The insane amount of pollution and waste they've created.

No case to answer Vs electric cars.

>I would take getting rained on a little bit if it was substantially less full of oil byproducts

That's nice for you but it's not the choice most people would make. They could make it now and they don't.

>Bikes and buses are the most reasonable transport

If by reasonable you mean terrible then yes. They're slow, inefficient, unpredictable, and pony useful for short journeys. It's legacy thinking.

>That will never be allowed near residential areas

And yet they will be. It's the future. So trying to make everyone live in the past. We didn't mind it so we changed it. Progress.

>If you want your personal vehicle, move to the countryside and don't ruin public spaces for everyone else

If you don't want to be near people personal vehicles then move to the countryside and stop loving in a city morning about everyone else. You can do this now.

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GekkosGhost t1_je4ot1i wrote

>That's an entirely American problem

No it isn't. We have the exact same issue with all major cities here in the UK.

>If you properly plan a city

Most European cities and so capitals are older than the car, older than the bus, and often older than the pushbike.

Hard to plan for what you can't envisage.

>It's an objectively happier lifestyle just by the numbers

Yeah, your numbers. It's objectively miserable waiting in the rain for a bus that may never come.

>I barely even use my car because I moved to a dense enough city that I can just walk everywhere

That's nice for you but wholly unrealistic for most people.

If we're replanning cities then we need to focus on personal airborne transport, because that'll be the future with some leccy cars knocking about.

Nobody is going back to pushbikes and buses. That's the 1800s and 1900s. It's over and done.

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GekkosGhost t1_je4jwcb wrote

>Infrastructure that supports everyone driving cars can be removed from dense cities

It's, I understand that's what you want, but it isn't what most people want. They don't mind standing in the train waiting for a bus that doesn't come.

>Just remove enough streets/parking or create bus route only lanes in downtowns with wide sidewalks and protected bike lanes

Again, I get that this is your utopia but it's others hell.

>It naturally cuts down on traffic by making it more inconvenient to drive

Yes, that is the whole entire problem in a nutshell.

>There's a need for cars in remote locations but no need in an urban center.

That's lovely if you live, work, and don't try to leave that urban center. It's utterly unworkable once you realise most people working and shopping in the center of town don't.

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GekkosGhost t1_je47xeg wrote

>I would push for fossil fuel bans until the day I die.

You'll have too. Cars last 20 years and even when new sales cease the existing fleet will require fuelling. Classic cars, many of which are over 40 years old now, will continue requiring fuel for another 40+ years.

I don't mind electric cars. They can be fun. But we're decades, plural, away from having enough infrastructure to support mass adoption here in the UK. It's very imminent they don't push back the switchover closer to the time.

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