IRequirePants t1_je0l9p9 wrote

>Every other developed country currently also has their lowest murder rate in a century. But they are locking up 10x fewer people than the US is

There is a million and a half reasons why this is. Edit: Since the comment was deleted - there are a million and half reasons why the US and other western countries have different circumstances

>It's almost as if it's not working at all.

The (until recently) record low homicide rate begs to differ.


IRequirePants t1_jdyux74 wrote

> Computer technology got us the lowest murder rate in a century.

COMPSTAT certainly helped.

I guess the difference here is that "War on Drugs" directly funneled money into police. It isn't tangential. It's directly related.

Now, if you want to say the War on Drugs had massive amounts of waste and other related societal harms, then sure. Over-incarceration, "stop-and-frisk" violations, etc.


IRequirePants t1_jdygjlk wrote

I like to think that their tabloid-clickbait funds their actual good work.

Anyway, when reading the Post, stick to the Sports and Local sections and avoid the Opinion and National sections. The tabloid articles are kind of fun if you like brainless celebrity gossip.


IRequirePants t1_j9n2c58 wrote

> The SAT didn’t help them, they were born with wealth and other advantages.

So you understand the issue. The SAT didn't help them, because they already have other advantages. Not every student is like that, especially in the NYC public school system.

The UC report shows SAT scores allowed more underrepresented groups of more diverse backgrounds into the system. And did so better than something more subjective, like high school GPA.

There is also this focus on the Ivies or other top schools that suburban districts have. For kids in urban charter schools, that is not the choice nor the focus.


IRequirePants t1_j9n1m9e wrote

> Thats the hottest worst take I have ever see

Because you have no concept of what the alternative is.

> Theres a huge movement going on in elite subrubab districts (of which I am part) to do LESS testing.

That movement is actually the dumbest things in education. For example, the UC system did a study on the SAT. They found it gave underrepresented students more opportunities and were a better indicator for college GPA than high school GPA.

No need to address the rest of your comment. Too many standardized tests is obviously bad, but having a core group of standardized tests (APs, SATs, Regents), is important for measuring student aptitude. Again, I point to this UC report.

Even if all they are learning is the test, they are learning something. The alternative is learning nothing at all for many of these kids.


IRequirePants t1_j9mzy9w wrote

First off, it 100% depends on the specific charter school. It is not a monolith. And I can just easily point to the public school failures in NYC. At least if a student is learning a test, they are learning.

For many students, the alternative is a public school where they will learn nothing at all.


IRequirePants t1_j9lzby4 wrote

> Rubber rooms have been a non issue for years you really need to get another talking point.

Because deBlasio and Adams started reassigning them to teaching roles:

From 2017 and from 2021

> Schools can barely find staff as it is, how do you think it’s going to work with no unions?

Huh? Seems to be working fine in charter schools.