IluvBsissa
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja8ipns wrote
Reply to comment by AvgAIbot in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
No, but their children will.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja8auq1 wrote
Reply to comment by AvgAIbot in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Dude, when people have unlimited free time, they'll reorganize their whole societies. People are dumb today, because they don't have time to think.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja84kcg wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Another answer : our version of Aristocracy emerged from the will to cheat Death, to be "immortalized" as someone who accomplished great things, like killing millions of people. If we actually manage to cheat death biologically, once humanity greatest enemy defeated, the idea behind supremacy will be completely changed.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja83m6o wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Also, we can always edict new laws to outlaw "antisocial sentiments". Perpetrators will be summoned to "change their neural pathways" if they had a lil bit too much murdery thoughts lately.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja839re wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
I'm pretty sure psychopaths in high places will be curious to know how it feels to be "good". So they will try the treatment, and bam! too late bro, you're a decent loving human being now and shall redistribute your wealth.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja80wbn wrote
Reply to comment by Elven77AI in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
"Infinite resources" can also be simulated through full dive VR. Frugal life in the real world, live like a King in the Matrix.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja80an4 wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
It is quite easy to know for a trained archeologist if a society was egalitarian or autocratic. The way houses are built and situated, if there are palaces, segregated neighborhood, military barracks, etc. The ones I mentioned had none of that.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja7zrot wrote
Reply to comment by genericrich in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Good question ! Well most Billionaires actually want to be loved and admired. It wasn't the case for Greek Aristocrats before : they only wanted to be admired by other nobles, they didn't care about the pleb's opinion. Today, it's different. If a super-star gives a moderate right-wingy opinion, it is immediately cancelled. These people are admired because they got there through "hard work" supposedly, and that anyone with a dream can reach their level. If all work, including actors, are automated, people will stop caring about them anymore. So billionaires won't be as respected as before.
Generation Z doesn't put ambition, or "hard work" at a higher level than their own well-being and the well-being of others and the planet. At least, compared to their predecessors. They are ok with a frugal life, as long as they're free and have a lot of free time. And that is also the case with the children of multi-millionaires. Only a minority actually seek the exuberant and scandalous lifestyle that severely damage our societies and ecosystems. Eventually, they will dwindle and disappear, so our future is safe.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja7xftd wrote
Reply to comment by alexiuss in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Absolutely. Closed information is weaker than open one.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja7uxtg wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Nukes ? Extraterrestrial settlements ? Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to a loony. My apologies, and don't forget to take your pills !
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja7qwzl wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
No, the author mentions civilizations from thousands of years before our era, not pre-industrial times.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja7qq46 wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Glad you asked. Well I wrote a post on the subject if you're interested : https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/uiy5rv/most_of_our_problems_are_cultural_not_technical/
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja7hipf wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
You are absolutely wrong.
EDIT : there are many cultures where Nobles didn't descend from warriors, actually. Some were even "poorer" than the common man. In China, for a long time, the higher class were civil servants who aced competitive exams (Europe started copying their system only 300 years ago).
A lot of great scientific achievements were actually made by egalitarian civilizations who had no kings nor aristocratic class, like the Mohenjo-Daro people or the Minoans and Etruscan. Warrior civilization like the Dorian's and Roman's invaded these peace-loving societies, enslaved them and appropriated their culture and scientific innovations. The necessity to enslave people to get more "spare-time" for science is a fallacy.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja7hdj1 wrote
Reply to comment by Desperate_Ad_5563 in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
You should read "The Dawn of Everything" from David Graeber, where he shows that many civilizations managed to shift from authoritarian kingdoms to egalitarian societies in the past. The world is what we make of it, nothing is inevitable.
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IluvBsissa OP t1_ja70cra wrote
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Learning for the sake of learning is more important.
IluvBsissa t1_ja46hnt wrote
Reply to comment by DukkyDrake in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
AMD said 2035 for zettascale...who will win the bet ?
IluvBsissa t1_ja3vk6c wrote
Reply to comment by BlueShipman in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
It's actually pretty cool.
IluvBsissa t1_ja3g14b wrote
Reply to comment by kakoni6758 in An ICU coma patient costs $600 a day, how much will it cost to live in the digital world and keep the body alive here? by just-a-dreamer-
Unless it's full automated luxury communism we're talking about.
IluvBsissa t1_ja3b7py wrote
Reply to comment by Pug124635 in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
We could use hemp and dead wood to 3d print basic furnitures.
IluvBsissa t1_ja3akaz wrote
Altman is right...to some degree. I do eco-construction and you can definitely build a well insulated house with local raw materials (adobe, clay, compressed earth brick, straw). No concrete or fancy material though. Electric system could be 3d printed in the future and directly integrated in the structure.
IluvBsissa t1_ja2my8h wrote
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Duuude, why don't you do a PhD and get peer-reviewed for your project ? You're preaching to a choir of mostly ignorants here.
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IluvBsissa t1_ja2dttr wrote
Reply to An ICU coma patient costs $600 a day, how much will it cost to live in the digital world and keep the body alive here? by just-a-dreamer-
If the cost of labor and energy approaches zero, probably not much. A single brain won't consume as much, neither.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja8xv5f wrote
Reply to comment by Sol_Hando in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Etruscan were a peace-loving society. They had kings and nobility, but they were more figure-head than actual sovereign with more economic power. For the Minoan, it is believed the palace was more of a common Temple for the people, rather than a royal palace. Again, Graeber and Wengrow, actual archeologist and anthropologist, explain the latest research on the subject.