Impossible_Watch7154 t1_jabzlk6 wrote

Are housing prices collapsing here? Housing in the greater Hartford area? said it was Number 1 in the USA

Connecticut's economy grew from $251.0 billion in the second quarter of2022 to $252.5 billion in the third quarter. The 2.5% annualized expansion rate was the 23rd largest of the 47 states to report economic growth.



Do me a favor- when you want to talk facts fine- of you want to disseminate BS and lies- then get lost. Or go into your MAGA world of delusion. Or re you a Russian bot?

Retail all over the country is going a fundamental change- forced by on line shopping- if you were informed - this is something you would have noticed.

Climate change is going to make people think twice about moving to the south- and believe me its going to get ugly.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j9szm7u wrote

The weather here is actually moderate this far north (41 degrees N) this is due to the proximity to the rapidly warming nearby Atlantic.

It can still get cold here for longer periods then in most of California.

Avoid Stop & Shop for grocery shopping- they are ridiculously over priced on many items.

There is less conspicuous consumption here then in the most populous parts of California. Although down on Connecticut's 'Gold coast' (Southwestern panhandle area) & parts of Fairfield county A level of snobbery is not pleasant to deal with sometimes.

All grocery stores and most retail charge 10 cents for a paper bag- there is no plastic. Walmart has decided in CT to make costumers bring their own bagging. (there is no option to buy a bag)

Grocery stores sell beer- that's it for now. They are trying to change this law for you to buy wine. Liquor can only be purchased in a 'package store' or other larger place like 'Total Wine'.

Marijuana dispensaries are opening throughout the state-so if you care to partake- it is easily available in the larger cities and towns. Prices are high.

Traffic here will be less congested than the heavier populated parts of CA- but can be frustrating at times. Many towns have archaic road patterns- that have existed back to the17th century.

Beware of ticks- in our rapidly warming climate they are a distinct menace- and can cause serious health problems. Take high precaution wondering into woods and grassy areas with out protection.

We have abundant wild life here despite being a heavily urbanized state- there are many bears, raccoons, skunks, foxes, deer, wild turkey, ground hogs- and two species of venomous snake- the eastern timber rattler and copperhead- both in a few isolated areas of the state.

The state is heavily forested- now is the stick season- so the only green you see are from evergreens. In summer the temperate deciduous forest covers the states hills and mountains. The greenness is beautiful. Autumns are still magical despite a changing climate.

Our shoreline (or coast) is more populated west of New Haven with some very 'toney' suburbs. East of New Haven there are smaller charming New England towns and pleasant beaches up to the Rhode Island state line.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j9ocono wrote

Manufacturing in CT has seen a renaissance. Although the state has remained a financial center- with growth in healthcare and education manufacturing has returned- not the heavy machinery of the past- but more of a specialized 21st century manufacturing. The state never strongly participated in the high tech internet wave of the last 20 years . Those regions that put all their eggs in tech are now seeing job losses.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j9o53h4 wrote

Weather this winter in CT was as mild as Nashville- perhaps milder. We are further north - but we have a rapidly warming body of water nearby- the green blue Atlantic. So summers though hotter then 10 years ago are not going to be the brutal heat seen in TN.

Winters will see more chilly weather- but that warming ocean nearby is eliminating the differences in winter temps. Both Hartford and Nashville have essentially the same climate designation now- 'humid temperate' or 'humid subtropical'. Climate change will make the mid to lower south increasingly hot and stormy over this decade.

Housing prices in greater Hartford- median home price 324K. Nashville 448K- this is a big difference. Rentals: 1 bedroom 1400.00 metro Hartford. Nashville near 1800.00.

Also consider this: Housing prices in central CT are seen as only 14% over valued. In Nashville metro they are seen as 46% over valued.

Employment growth in CT is strong- job growth strong in health care, education & specialized manufacturing. Central CT was never a strong IT center- but its old economic base of innovative manufacturing has made a strong rebound.

On the political side TN is a deep red state- which says it represents 'freedom'- but freedom for whom? I would find the state of TN strangling- with the government telling me how to live my life- every move I make. That's not freedom.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j9enqgl wrote

I would not call Connecticut 'past its prime' It is a densely populated state (740 people per square mile) with a long history in a very desirable geographic region - New England. Its proximity to New York City and Boston- make it an envied location globally.

Add to this a moderate climate, forest covered hills and mountains and a beautiful coast line. Its not overly hot, dry, or congested (although the states southwest near NYC can become frenetic)

The state has one of the best economies in the nation currently. So its hardly 'past its prime'.

The state is considered one of the best states for quality of life and low crime.

Connecticut's future as a 'climate haven' will make it a prime place to live now and years ahead. Most of the American south will become very hot- while areas further west will face increasing heat and water shortages.

Racism exists here- but Connecticut's strong hate crime laws enacted over 30 years ago limits overt racism. Also the states highly educated electorate helps reduce racism, homophobia, sexism.

West Hartford is a nice town- but there are certainly other towns in greater Hartford that are diverse and good places to live.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j8hhiuj wrote

East of Hartford into Manchester, Vernon, Bolton, South Windsor, Hebron will be cheapest.

Also check into Middletown (south of Hartford)

I would look into a 'historic reproduction' . An 'historic home' no matter how much updated may have unseen issues.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j88omgf wrote

average 1 bedroom apartment in West Haven is$1395 a month (Feb 2023) New Haven will be higher. Hamden will be $1900. East Haven is $1500.

Middletown - $1520- a longer commute, not for someone coming from OK. Middletown is a fun city on the Connecticut river. Great food, bars- Wesleyan Univ is in town.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j6ipwxt wrote

No place will be safe from climate change- its just some places will be lethal compared to CT.

They have to begin planning now for what could be a very unstable future in Connecticut. Many folks have no idea of the threat looming.

From a few days ago


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j6ik3dx wrote

Some states like Vermont and Maine realize the 'concept' of being a 'climate haven'-

All of New England is now seen as a 'climate haven'- no state has a large inventory of housing- so CT is not an outlier.

The climate crisis itself - elected officials- and the states populace seem mostly uniformed to the dire threats facing us. Its simply going to become much hotter (the coming El Nino will blow our socks off)

Something of interest:


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j6crmqj wrote

Yes the inventory of homes is low- not much has been built in the state over the last 15 years.

Nonetheless home prices are a bargain compared to areas of the country threatened by climate change.

I have doubt the state is realizing more people will move here because of climate change- forcing prices higher in years to come. Connecticut is a climate haven. State government here has lagged in realizing this concept.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j67whhy wrote

This post is meaningless- and shows how uniformed many people are.

As Climate Fears Mount, Some in U.S. Are Deciding to Relocate.

As wildfires worsen and sea levels rise, a small but growing number of
Americans are choosing to move to places such as New England or the
Appalachian Mountains that are seen as safe havens from climate change.
Researchers say this phenomenon will intensify in the coming decades.

For many being shattered by climate change- Connecticut is like Eden. Temperate beautiful forests and weather. And housing prices BELOW the national average.

Connecticut's population will continue to grow as people get out of harms way of an increasingly erratic and dangerous climate. This increase will pick up by decades end.

The state will have to allocate more time and effort in dealing with this increase in population.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j67v7gk wrote

As climate change worsens and the GOP becomes more wacko- Connecticut will see modest population growth for some time. The pace of people like yourself moving here will quicken as climate change becomes worse this decade. Lots of people who post here are clueless. You 'get the picture' climate havens like CT will be the present and future. Many folks are living in the past with CT.

What concerning is the amount of housing stock here (its low) and the state government lack of understanding and planning for the influx of climate refugees. Although the state of CT ranks as the 5th best state in its preparation for climate change- the state here does not understand the backlash climate change will bring- as people leave southern and southwestern states. My education in geography and geology made me informed- not clueless!


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j67ufsz wrote

Actually housing prices are projected to rise in greater Hartford this year about 8%. Many people interested in Connecticut. Not only from NY- but from the Washington DC area- and states suffering from heat, drought and extreme weather.

When moving these days- one must do their homework about climate change- the biggest issue this country and world has ever faced. Those moving south to areas that will become brutally hot do so at their own risk. In the end they will pay more than staying in CT. Too many uniformed people moving to harms way in states that will face the worst affects from climate change.

Northern states like Connecticut will see an influx of people from areas like Texas, Florida and AX and other southern states because of climate change. CT though also becoming warmer has a temperate climate with less heat in the summer. Winters are becoming much milder.

Florida is in a housing bubble with prices that exceed most of CT-

The cost of home owners insurance in Florida is through the roof. Add climate change to this toxic cocktail- the smart people are getting out.


Impossible_Watch7154 t1_j5j6qc5 wrote

Crime levels in CT are a much different animal than on the west coast. Certain parts of many towns in Connecticut and New England will have certain areas that can be described as 'sketchy'- but not teaming with criminal activity.

Hartford, New Haven & Waterbury have areas that are more dangerous. Middletown no. You might look into Portland CT- across the Connecticut river from Middletown-

Other towns to consider are West Hartford, Wethersfield, Newington, South Windsor, Glastonbury, Vernon to name a few- CT has rates in to top six states for low crime.

Yes, 3000 miles away is a leap. But these days in CT seeing more auto plates with Cali plates- you will not be alone.

I would look into Zillow, or other sites for rental/leases.