Jim_Panzee

Jim_Panzee t1_iqzsh0k wrote

>Like… I don’t think self-image is even necessary to be conscious at all. I don’t think a fish has self-image, but they are conscious.

It sure has. It is necessary to picture yourself in a surrounding with obstacles. Simply to solve the problem of moving yourself in the direction of food.

Anyway. If you are able to learn anything from history, than it is that humans attributed anything they didn't understand to some kind of magic. Many many times. And the cases where it was actually magic are 0.

Thunder is not the wrath of Thor. And thinking "this time it has to be magic" is not clever.

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Jim_Panzee t1_iqzqg90 wrote

Obviously it is dumbed down for the scope of a Reddit comment. I leave it to you to inform you further about this theory attributing consciousness to the need of a mental picture of "self" to understand that the leaf you were going to eat did not vanish from existence just because it got covered by an obstacle while you were moving towards it.

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Jim_Panzee t1_iqzm9c8 wrote

Just because we are not able yet to understand a thing, it does'nt mean it's magic.

It's hubris to think consciousness is something special, when it's just an evolutionary result of the need to mentally visualize yourself and a prey, that just moved out of sight behind a rock, to be able to continue your hunt.

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