LifeInTheCarpoolLane

LifeInTheCarpoolLane t1_iu4pt92 wrote

Ok, I'm done trying to engage with you in good faith, you obviously just wanna be toxic. I'm not sure what you're actually upset about, but I don't think it can possibly be a stranger on the internet implying they would tip a little less if they knew a service worker was making a guaranteed $31,000 a year instead of $5500.

You should step away from Reddit for awhile and seriously consider seeing a therapist. This isn't healthy behavior, and if you talk to people like this in real life I can't imagine you have any healthy relationships with real people.

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LifeInTheCarpoolLane t1_iu4ntpg wrote

Dude, the entire conversation here is centered on wait staff in Portland based on a referendum on the Portland ballot. The only thing I've said is if it passes, and thus I know service workers are making Portland minimum wage, I would tip 5% less in Portland. In all other scenarios, such as establishments outside of Portland, I would assume the workers did not make minimum wage and tip my default 20%.

If I were in another town and happened to know that workers made the equivalent of Portland minimum wage, I would tip as if I were in Portland. I would not interrogate wait staff over their base wages because that's something only a crazy person would suggest. So in this scenario the worst case is I may "accidentally" tip someone making the equivalent of Portland minimum wage 5% more than I usually would.

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LifeInTheCarpoolLane t1_iu4fdyp wrote

Yea, I do know that. I'm usually pretty aware of what town I'm currently in. And I'm also quite positive wages in Falmouth aren't effected by the Portland minimum wage. Again, on account of those being two different municipalities.

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LifeInTheCarpoolLane t1_iu4ers3 wrote

I get it. I hate tipping culture and think it's dumb as hell. I've always tipped 20% regardless of the service I receive because I know service workers rely, almost solely, on tips to pay the bills. It's not my place to take food off someone's plate because maybe they were having an off day at work.

I'm with you on the concerns to small business's as well. A sudden change from paying your full time staff $31,000 a year, where they were previously making $5500, isn't the type of overnight accounting change that's gonna land a soft blow. I don't know what the actual solve is to be honest. I wish I understood the service industry a little better to get why restaurants and bars outside the US don't have this problem.

I guess I'm also rambling now. Here's a question though, and something I think about often. Why don't all restaurants, bars, etc just add a mandatory 18% gratuity to every bill? It's not a perfect solution, but it guarantees as long as there's business the staff is getting their cut. It would also circumvent the pieces of shit who think they have some moral high ground not to pay someone for their labor because their arbitrary bar for "good service" wasn't met.

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LifeInTheCarpoolLane t1_ith45yj wrote

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