>Yeah, I made it up for sure

Indeed.

>Nope

Yes.

>Yikes dude, yikes

Chuckling at door openings, only if your lethargic family was awake for this scene and others.

>Was bad, yes

Good and critically well received by audiences and critics.

>Because of the cast and the politics

Critics were quite clear that the Screenplays were the main strength.

>and the politics

When you thought he was being overly mean to conservatives.

Wild.

>It's always projection.

What projection exactly?

Super intelligent and i feel terrific about it, every day is another adventure.

>Had nothing to do with their attention spans

No, because you made it up.

>You didn't correct jack mate

I did.

>And yes I laughed during Grant's cameo

Im glad him opening a door tickled your funny bone, how your imaginary family didnt wake up from you chuckling is a mystery.

> It is no coincidence that the best parts were Hawke's and Grant's performances

The talk of the town.

>If not for the cast list

Screenplay.

>Not as unanimous praise as you think.

Never said it was 100% (few films are), but it was a critical success.

> 'easily available info'

Google.

>for appallingly mediocre entertainment

Critically acclaimed.

>There are people that have the bar set a bit higher than that.

Ben Shapiro, lol.

No, you can express your opinion, its just bad (shrugs)

> when you start 8th grade it

Long gone im afraid

Critics and audiences: Its good.

u/aboycandream: Its bad.

Wild.

>Citation needed

Its easily available.

>DAE narcissistic billionaires bad?

Specific ones with specific traits.

>DAE dumb conservatives bad?

I explained this already, various groups were criticized but hilariously smooth brain ben sharpiro types failed to see this.

>You are saying this like nominations are the end all be all testament of a film's quality; they aren't

Bad reading comprehension on your part yet again.

An indicator of a films quality involves multiple things, yes nominations, but also critical praise and audience reactions. Rians recent work did well in all these regards.

>I'm convinced you are just making shit up at this point

Easily available.

>Knives out had an entire segment devoted to a 15-something year old being called a creepy alt-right incel

Yeah, something like a grand total of 25 seconds, while also criticizing other groups like holier than thou liberals.

>Not to mention the peak cringe cameos like Serena's training program

That was good.

>(Grant's cameo was the only time I laughed during the film, so there's that)

You laughed at someone opening the door?

>instead he chose the surface level message 'billionaires are dumb'

Bit them dim in many ways as shown recently in the real world as well being unoriginal and succeeding through circumstance.

>I have to give it to Rian, he truly made a film that is impossible to criticise.

You can, but here it aint going well.

>He shat on the lowest hanging fruit.

Previously you said conservatives in this regard, i corrected you. In onion its fluke billionaires...and their naïve sycophants.

> Europe and they fell asleep half way through

Some people have short attention spans, god bless them.

> The film doesn't resonate outside of American politics.

Except it was a critical and audience wise hit outside the US.

>Watch it and you will immediately notice the stark contrast in the script quality.

eh, thought it was just pretty good, my feelings really on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne9DNky1WyQ

>Avatar 2 was also highly anticipated and it is not peak storytelling either

Except, unlike Avatar, both Knives Out films, again, received high praise for their screenplays.

>It's 'anticipated' because Craig's Blanc is hilarious, that's it

Which is due to writing, which Craig himself praised. ( Im feeling he wasnt that happy with his Bond run)

>I can give you pointers to dozens of other Oscar/Golden Globes/whatever baits if you want

lol

The above.

>You must be delusional if you think the film's success wasn't primarily on the shoulders of the cast

It wasnt, it was the writing, that was the main source of praise, the cast even regarded the writing in these films as key.

We then get an overall new main cast and the next also receives strong praise, with the screenplay again being a highlight.

>The writing was an afterthought.

Now this is delusional.

>Lol ok, clearly you haven't seen many

Certainly none better, or one that goes off on such an unconventional route, but then at the end allows the watcher to have their cake and eat it.

>Ok Rian we get it, you got some nominations, it was still bleh

Cute, again, nominated and critically well received among audiences and critics.

>you also think BBC Sherlock was a good detective series

Saw one season, it was ok.

>Ah yes, it was bad on purpose.

Except no one said this.

>not a subtle storyteller.

Actually theres lots of different things that people and critics missed on first viewing which sites on the internet enjoyed highlighting. Also lots of subtle indicators of whats to come.

>He thinks he deserves brownie points for shitting on conservatives

This is a dumb view put forth by dim Ben Shapiro types, Knives Out takes digs at people expecting free hand outs regardless of their political ideology.

Glass Onion just takes digs at the grander than thou billionaire types high on their own supply, again, regardless of their political ideology.

>for shitting on conservatives

If you thought this its means you misread it or you are simply parroting something you saw on youtube which stated this.

>The plot was nonsense from start to finish.

No, it all followed an engaging and entertaining path from start to finish.

>Glass Onion will age just as poorly, if not worse, than Crash

Except it wont, it is a film which received higher critical acclaim from both critics and audiences. The third film in the franchise will actually be highly anticipated.

Crash is also the most boring go to film for conversations like this, pick something more original.

>I agree Knives out was generally enjoyable, largely due to the cast

The cast could have been changed out with whoever, they are working of his script.

>However, it isn't better than the best detective films at all.

For whodunnits, yeah, it is, maybe there are some which are in the same tier, but that would involve being nice to them.

>you just cannot convince me Glass Onion had good writing.

Excellent writing, aptly nominated.

>The murder mystery with a secret twin trope was weak

It was good actually.

>social commentary had the subtlety of a sledgehammer.

.....the character at the end explains, its not meant or designed to be subtle, its wearing its heart on its sleeve. (Hilariously people still failed to get it)

The strength of the writing involved the intricate of its plot as it unfolded. The plot twist adding another layer to the meaning of the previous segment.

>Okay and? Crash was also nominated for a number of awards for its simplistic and unsubtle script

Crash wishes it got the same critical reviews as The Glass Onion for its screenplay.

>Just because I agree with the film's messaging on a ground level doesn't mean I am automatically compelled to praise

Never claimed otherwise.

No, it is genuine nonsense.

"Hes a stupid person's idea of a smart [x]" has always been a dumb critique.

Its like school kids doing variations of, "agree with me, or youre stupid", its truly terrible when adults do it.

> is literally just a pastiche of better genre films

God no, its much better, that category of films tends to be lacking especially in recent decades. its screenplay is also a lot more unconventional than those previousworks

>He is a good director, but a poor writer

This is dumb, his writing is his best strength, its what he tends to get nominated for.

>everything else was poorly written

God no, his other works had great writing.

>Hes a stupid person's idea of a smart writer.

Nonsense.