And how many has left now? And what do you call the great firewall? You must be living under a rock.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership would have secured IP rights, forced a decoupling of state-owned Chinese enterprises within the TPP, and would have seen trade flows triple the size of NAFTA. Thanks to Trump and his idiot cohorts, we will have to start from scratch, or worse, work bilaterally with significantly less leverage.

The beauty of China's culture is that as long as their IP espionage benefits them, the CCP will continue to permit it and vice-versa.

As much as this needs to happen from the U.S.'s perspective, I'm not holding my breath because of the increasingly looming Taiwan issue and China will never come to the table from a position of weakness, which is the case right now and hence why they are feigning manners and benevolence for the time being. I also don't think there is a way to reach such an accord so long the Taiwan issue remains unresolved or without the economic inducement of access to an analogous massive free trade zone.

I think that would be a mistake. I have seen firsthand what happens when affluent Chinese students travel abroad - they either: a) don't want to leave/stay in the West, and brain-drain/divert resources from China, or b) they go back and tell their friends and family about the political freedoms they enjoyed abroad, an implicit threat to the information control the CCP has over the country.

Both are net positives for the West, and China knows it. Corporate or research espionage is another matter altogether and by and large Chinese students are not engaged in that.

Yes, you get it.

Yes, why are we making it easy for MAGA country access to the internet? Does anyone honestly think conservatives would extend the same courtesy to their opponents? I’m so sick of the shittingly stupid political moves of my party.

The tech sector was hit particularly hard with layoffs lately because companies over hired last year.