Masspoint

Masspoint OP t1_jbxa6ml wrote

well I had a conversation with chatgpt about the similarities between human intelligence and machine learning and it kinda said the same but if you look at how human intelligence develops it is actually quite similar, the major difference is in the programming and the sensory input, but also the processing power.

That creates vastly different results, and since it is not biological I would not consider it alive either, or have a soul so to speak.

But it terms of reasoning, it defenitely can reason and that is quite revolutionary. I wouldn't go as far to say it has awareness or consciousness, but it certainly produces something that look similar to the outside world.

In the mind itself , it's just bits and bytes though, meaning it's basically just a calculator, that's pretty much what any computer is, but this calculator is so advanced it can mimic a type of consciousness.

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Masspoint OP t1_jbx5yil wrote

well it was just by accident, I have done iq tests in the past and I was wondering how it would score on it. At first I thought it was crazy smart, but when I made that numeric sequence it showed pretty quickly it isn't that smart.

Because it was able to recognize in other numeric sequences positions of numbers, so this should actually be a pretty easy numeric sequence.

It couldn't see it, but still, it was able to understand it when I explained it.

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Masspoint OP t1_j6oofeh wrote

Thanks, I didn't really list them by popularity though, allthough some are because the sales were so high. For instance space invaders created a shortage of yen coins apparently. I didn't know that before I listed it because I researched a lot of the titles that I didn't know much about.

I encountered nim, because I was planning to start from the start but since I don't know a lot from the time before the eighties (and even the eighties I'm not that adept in) I thought the home release of pong was a good cut off.

Never heard of tennis for two, the video game crash I know (hence why I listed E.T.)

I've seen nintendo r.o.b but don't know much about it.

Nintendo vs sony I know a lot about (funny that how playstation became such a behemoth, it's basically nintendo's fault)

I know mortal kombat and a lot there is to know but I don't know night trap, I presume it's also a game that was instrumental in creating the esbr ratings.

I don't know the relation between sega dreamcast and online play, but you made me curious.

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Masspoint OP t1_j6oin1g wrote

to elaborate I'm going to give you a couple of examples

Prince of persia because it made use of motion capture technique called rotoscoping that was never used before apart from in karateka (which was made by the same designer). By that prince of persia was the first cinematic platformer and inspired many games in this subgenre (another world for instance). It's success also launched the prince of persia series.

Prince of persia ; Sands of time created the building blocks for assassins creed when it comes to climbing mechanics.

L.A. noir is the first game that used motionscan

Double dragon is on there because it was the landmark for 2d side scrolling beat em up titles

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Masspoint OP t1_j6ogzd7 wrote

Well you have an advantage here because I did not play fallout 1 and 2. I know, I read that it is in many ways better than all of the titles after that, but during that time it went past me. It wasn't really the type of game that I played and before fallout 3 I never even heard of it (never heard of the elder scrolls before oblivion either for that matter)

So you could certainly be right they should be in there, I forgot to research them because as you said that time is already stacked.

But it's not only that, I thought I would have covered it with a lot of the big names that are similar in that regard, and create standards for those type of games.

I might have made a mistake by listing neverwinter nights instead of those two games though, or at least one of those two. I listed neverwinter nights , because it is also used for educational purposes in video game development.

I also played neverwinter nights.

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Masspoint OP t1_j6ofc6t wrote

Well landmarks doesn't mean the same thing as greatest games, gross revenue is a factor, because that can be very impactfull, but only if it spans across a lot of time, so the best selling game of that year isn't necessarily a landmark, especially if it didn't create a new standard or stand out in a different way.

Having said that, yes the list is still personal because I had to cut somewhere, and I have forgotten things as well. My knowledge only goes so far and I only did extra research for about half a day.

But a lot is based on factual data.

and thanks for calling it a great list, i hope you weren't being sarcastic :)

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Masspoint OP t1_j6oe7l0 wrote

That's not how I meant it, before crysis a lot of games were developped for the pc only, or first for the pc and then ported to the console.

The x360 and ps3 generation changed that, I call it the coup of the consoles. The xbox 360 and ps3 were so strong at the time of release you had to buy a 1500$ pc to match the performance, this while the x360 released at 400$.

Pc games were characterized before that by pushing the technology always forward and the consoles had to follow.

Crysis was actually one of the last games that did that, and the leap in technology was so big, no pc could run it at ultra settings, at least not the real ultra settings, because ultra settings in the menus were still nerfed, because they knew it would take years before any pc would even be able to handle anything stronger.

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Masspoint OP t1_j6o9w36 wrote

I'm glad you see it's not about the best games, but more how they stand out for whatever reason.

A lot of people apparently think this is about the best games, they don't see their favourite game in there, which probably had some awards and they downvote, pity, it would be nice to have more of debate what I was missing but also what I haven't missed.

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Masspoint OP t1_j6o96ag wrote

This isn't really about best games of that year, but how they stand out.

If crysis isn't a landmark I don't really know what is. It is the swan song of pc gaming, as in the era they developped popular titles for the pc first. Games like doom, quake and halflife.

It was an amazing swan song in that regard though, since it couldn't run on the x360 and ps3, which were built to compete with pc gaming. It also couldn't run on most pc's, well not very good anyway.

Bioshock is in there mainly for the art direction.

Halo is in there btw , just not halo 3.

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