Yeah no that’s not real. Manufacturers make parts to spec. Period. It’s the companies fault for specifying their parts that way. Your opinion is rooted in prejudice and ignorance

I disagree strongly, but I clearly can’t change your mindset. So agree to disagree.

I wasn’t talking about you. You’re ok.

Because I hate ignorant people

I have continuously said it’s the companies fault. Everything you described is the companies fault.

10 years ago🙄

Not true, that is false, and it is rooted in prejudice

All made with parts made all across the globe, often many of the same parts

Well it’s not super easy. Tiny electronics is HARD. I was restoring an old Gameboy, and man you gotta have surgical hands for it. I just mean small parts is a pain to deal with, I’m not an electronics expert.

OP consider the Cuisinart multiclad pro. I got some and they are nice nice!

The raw materials for products are chosen by companies. Are you not listening? If your pipe from China is ass it’s because it was specified to be that way. it was specced to be cheap. If you can’t agree with that then just go away. Go fuck a spectrometer.

Making cast iron cookware is surprisingly simple believe it or not. One of the easiest things to make on the planet.

It’s a Dutch oven, not aerospace. I’m done arguing with you. If it is the same product, then it has same machine, same processes, same quality control, same standard work, same specs, same raw materials, same damn product. If it is different it’s because the company allows it. Companies choose everything about their products. I’m not gonna sit here and let a metallurgist tell me about products, that’s stupid. I am a product engineer, you are a metallurgist.

I chose Staub for aesthetics. They’re beautiful pieces. I waited for a sale and got a 5qt for the same price as a Lodge.

The le cruset made in France is identical to the ones made in China and Taiwan period. As long as they are the same model and specs. Period. It is an Engineering fact.

Well I have more than 3 brain cells, so I don’t associate locations with quality. I look at the product itself and if it’s shit, I know it’s because it was specified to be that way.

Because of the company…

They make it that way because it’s affordable. Not because they suck. People buy shitty steel, because it’s cheap. Not everyone needs world class steel. Price points. It’s not that they can’t, they spec it that way on purpose. You know that! You also know not every product is going to be perfect, maybe china isn’t the industry leader on steel. But the US isn’t the industry leader on enameled cast iron.

I too am an engineer. Like I said in another comment. I focus on materials, processes, and products. I know all too well that they CAN do it the same. If they don’t it is the fault of the company that specs the product and processes.

I agree with what you’re saying but you don’t realize you’re agreeing with me. China CAN do it, but often times companies loosen their specs on Chinese goods. That’s not chinas fault, that’s the company. The machines and processes used are often identical. As I’m sure you know, you sound smart.

As you type on your foreign made device. I hate the uneducated radicals…

Not true, that is a pure lie. Raw materials used to make products is chosen by the company, it’s their specifications. Manufacturers don’t just get to do it their way. They do exactly what they’re told to do. If the metallurgy is poor it is because the company allowed the manufacturer to use it.

But quality IS NOT one of them. It is a 100% fact.

That’s how I know ur full of it. You went from saying the products are bad to speaking on ethics and philosophy.

Machines are the same yes, specs are the same, etc, but they make products faster, therefore are better.