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PandaJ108 t1_jdtc5q8 wrote

There is discrepancy between outlets coverage of this the the arraignment charges. Nearly all article have describe this as a strangulation (a felony) with the allege arrest charge being strangulation.

But the arraignment charges published on the public court date website shows the top charge he is facing is a misdemeanor assault charge.

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PandaJ108 t1_jcaov3h wrote

When most New Yorkers care way more about violent repeat offenders overall ricidivism being down because misdemeanors rearrest deceased while violent felonies rearrest increase means little.

This is the second study in the past year that has claim “bail reform led to less rearrest” only for the numbers to clearly show that the overall decrease was driven solely by a drop in misdemeanor rearrest while felony rearrest rates increased.

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PandaJ108 t1_jcan98s wrote

The two year rearrest rate is down once you group misdemeanor, pending case, and violent felonies together. Misdemeanor rearrest being down is what pulls the overall numbers down.

But a look at the chart of page 17 clearly shows that those in the bail/reform group who had a pending case or were arrested on violent felony were more likely to be rearrested.

I think people care way more about those with a pending case and/or a violent felony arrest being more likely to get rearrested even if the raw numbers are relatively low when compared to misdemeanors.

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PandaJ108 t1_jcak138 wrote

Going to go out on a limb and say you only read the headline (and definitely did not bother to click the link leading the study) and completely missed how bail eligible suspects arrested on violent offenses saw there rearrest rate increase.

And look at the chart on page 17 of the study. Want to talk about picking stats. The chart clearly shows that those in the bail reform group who had a pending case where more likely to be rearrested across all categories (any rearrest, felony rearrest, violent felony rearrest).

And the same hold true for those initial arrested on a violent felony. The bail reform group were more likely to be rearrested across all categories compared to the comparison group.

So great, those that were a part of the bail/reform group who were initially arrested on a misdemeanor are less likely to be arrested while those on the bail/reform group who had pending case or arrested on a violent felony were more likely to be arrested.

Anybody that views this as any sort of “win” 100% just read the headline and whatever stats the author wanted to highlight.

Like I said. The chart is on page 17 of the study for anybody that wants to review for themselves.

Edited- page number updated. Chart is on page 17. Specifically, the one breaking down the two year rearrest rate.

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PandaJ108 t1_jbxvld5 wrote

Actions that would have been 100% justified and could have been used by the first two cops. Repeated strikes, taser, spray. But they keep trying to just use arm control to control somebody bigger/stronger then them.

Crowd would have probably scream police abuse and become hostile had they used any of the tactics/devices above anyway.

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PandaJ108 t1_jb655o5 wrote

People who resort to bringing up nationwide incarceration rates when stating X NYC violent offender should have never been free to commit another violent crime. They may be absent in this particular thread but I have dealt with plenty of them.

Then if you want to go beyond reddit. People in positions of power and/or with a following in regards to criminal justice. Tiffany Caban does not think this guy should be locked up. Advocates with a following (like rebecca kavanaugh, Adam Johnson, Scott hechinger) don’t think this guy should be locked up.

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PandaJ108 t1_jb3o904 wrote

Crime has dropped compared to pandemic highs. The article you posted also clearly states crime is still “significantly higher” than pre-pandemic levels.

Your free to gloat but realize your gloating over crime simply being lower than pandemic highs. Seems like a low bar to be happy about.

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PandaJ108 t1_jb1cnw9 wrote

November 2021 thru Sumer 2022 was the peak of pandemic crime. The year to year comparisons are going to be very favorable for 2023. Assuming the rate of decline stays consistent I will say we are about 2-3 years away from reaching pre-pandemic levels of crime (under 100k index crimes reported, under 300 murders and under 1000 shootings).

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PandaJ108 t1_japodyl wrote

700 number refers to instances of somebody overdosing, in which it was reverse. It does not necessarily it prevented 700 people from overdosing. One person can be treated multiple time and each time a overdose was averted, it counts towards the 700 number.

Other articles have said these sites are essentially visited by the same 2,000 people throughout the year. With those people accounting for about 40,000 visits to these sites.

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PandaJ108 t1_j9ttogy wrote

Your right but this reddit does not consider people committing traffic base infractions/violations to be “soft targets”. They want the full weight of law to come down on them and any fears of bias policing goes away in regards in regards to traffic enforcement.

Look at the replied to the currently most liked comment on this post. Somebody that normally hates police gangs but is perfectly fine with this enforcement cause they rank traffic infractions as their #1 issue of concern.

To a decent size segment on here. Bike lane violations, fake plates is on par with assaults and robberies.

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PandaJ108 t1_j9tq8yo wrote

It’s funny how the gender breakdown is not mention even though it will be way more disproportionate than racial factors. It will probably be something like 95% of those arrested after a traffic stop being men. It’s like collectively that part gets dismissed cause society seems to understand/expect men to commit more offenses.

But if one were to say “maybe Black and Hispanic men get arrested more for fake plates because they are the one using fake plates”, now it’s problematic.

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