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Pug124635 OP t1_ja3qt08 wrote
Reply to comment by BigMemeKing in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
I’ve seen this and it’s a great idea. But it don’t fix the planning permission, land, utilities, road and sewers costs which is what brings the price right up
Pug124635 OP t1_ja3m0ym wrote
Reply to comment by Yzerman_19 in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
Messaged you
Pug124635 OP t1_ja3jdr1 wrote
Reply to comment by Capitaclism in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
Yeah I’m glad that people in the know can see where I’m coming from. It’s just so complex isn’t it.
Pug124635 OP t1_ja3j3d6 wrote
Reply to comment by Yzerman_19 in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
I’m a cost controller. It’s interesting isn’t it. Look into offisite manufacturing. Thats where it’s realistically going right now and might interest you.
Pug124635 OP t1_ja3gcgh wrote
Reply to comment by DukkyDrake in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
Right okay I understand. Do you actually believe we will get ai robots in 20yrs capable of installing waters main etc? It just seems such a complex task for a robot.
Pug124635 OP t1_ja3axm8 wrote
Reply to comment by IluvBsissa in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
Oh really? This is interesting. Have you got any suggestions on the utilities issue?
Pug124635 OP t1_ja3a91n wrote
Reply to comment by FeDuke in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
I can 100% see this happening just not in 20yrs sadly
Pug124635 OP t1_ja3a31l wrote
Reply to comment by DukkyDrake in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
This makes the most sense to me. Got any suggestions on the utilities problem?
Pug124635 OP t1_ja35mg9 wrote
Reply to comment by FeDuke in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
I’m actually really socialist. I’m just being realistic. I do believe it will happen at some point. It’s just people saying singularity in 20yrs and we will have unlimited everything and live forever etc. but does anyone really believe that in 20yrs materials to build a whole house will basically be free and we will have ai robots capable of digging up all the roads and installing electric, water, internet and sewers and then connecting all the plumbing and electricity up inside? An ai wouldn’t even know where to begin to dig let alone tap into existing mains and distribute it and the dexterity to do it all.
Pug124635 OP t1_ja34cia wrote
Reply to comment by Lawjarp2 in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
I see what your suggesting. Your saying if we can find away to extract the materials then the amount of materials is basically unlimited and will bring the price down. That makes sense. but then we’ve still got to solve the utilities and road and sewers costs.
Pug124635 OP t1_ja33yl5 wrote
Reply to comment by FeDuke in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
We do that with brick and block. It’s still a very expensive refining process unfortunately. See uk housing market. And if you mean getting like dirt from the fields and turning it into clay. Maybe with 3D printing or something but not all dirt is equal and it’s still way off 20yrs for this to be reality.
Pug124635 OP t1_ja327r5 wrote
Reply to comment by Lawjarp2 in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
Yes but the problem is that there is only a limited amount of resources on the planet and we as humans want unlimited things. For example, if Walmart said tomorrow that food will be free, watch a massive stampede of people grabbing everything and leaving others with nothing. This is why we have a cost mechanism and supply and demand. This is the problem with housing there is only a limited amount of materials and land which is what is stopping everyone from having affordable housing. It’s an unfortunate reality but reality never the less.
Pug124635 OP t1_ja31og6 wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
Okay so I’m big believer in offsite manufacturing for housing and it’s finally starting to take off. If you look into panellised walls, pod bathrooms etc. I 100% believe that will happen in the next 20yrs. I just can’t get my head around how the housing will be a lot cheaper as the main issues killing the cost of housing is the utilities and materials.
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Pug124635 OP t1_ja7l52x wrote
Reply to comment by BenjaminHamnett in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
It’s not the the utilities in the house that’s the problem we already do this with bathroom\kitchen pods off-site manufacturing. What kills the cost is getting the existing underground water/electric all the way to a house as this can’t be done offsite. You still need a human to dig it all up, connect on to it, and co ordinate all the way to a house. The further house is the greater the cost and can significantly impact the cost of a house.