RamboSixVegas
RamboSixVegas t1_j5kdqo0 wrote
Reply to comment by Demi_Monde_ in TIL that Titanic crewman Herbert Pitman made an attempt to row his lifeboat over to rescue people in the water, but was overruled by the other occupants of the boat, who were worried about people swarming them and duly complied. Pitman said that this haunted him throughout his life. by ChadExtra
I've often seen crew fatalities overlooked, apart from some particularly notable crewmembers. It's a shame, as if they don't count because they weren't passengers.
It's worth remembering most of the crew were hotel staff. It just so happened the hotel they worked at was on a ship.
RamboSixVegas t1_j5kcmcl wrote
Reply to comment by nogoodgreen in TIL that Titanic crewman Herbert Pitman made an attempt to row his lifeboat over to rescue people in the water, but was overruled by the other occupants of the boat, who were worried about people swarming them and duly complied. Pitman said that this haunted him throughout his life. by ChadExtra
Their farewell concert in 2016 was one of the most watched events in Canada that year, and estimates are that 1/3 Canadians were watching it. The broadcasting networks switched away from the Olympics. Not that the Canadian athletes minded, as they were watching it too.
RamboSixVegas t1_j5k83nq wrote
Reply to comment by Jrubas in TIL that Titanic crewman Herbert Pitman made an attempt to row his lifeboat over to rescue people in the water, but was overruled by the other occupants of the boat, who were worried about people swarming them and duly complied. Pitman said that this haunted him throughout his life. by ChadExtra
Reading through the thread, there's a commonly known fact that hasn't been brought up.
The crewmembers, and many passengers, knew there wasn't enough space in the lifeboats for everyone currently in the water. They already had to make the decision to let others die to ensure they didn't die with them, including people they loved. They're already making difficult decisions under awful circumstances.
What everyone seems to be condemning them for is for failing to calculate in their head a formula that would yield the exact amount of time to get the most people saved in a survival situation involving listening to hundreds of people die. How reddit is that?
RamboSixVegas t1_j5jsa3s wrote
Reply to comment by scottgal in TIL that Titanic crewman Herbert Pitman made an attempt to row his lifeboat over to rescue people in the water, but was overruled by the other occupants of the boat, who were worried about people swarming them and duly complied. Pitman said that this haunted him throughout his life. by ChadExtra
dellshusFudge is right with the name of the ship being Arctic. You're confusing the name with another White Star Liner that killed most of its passengers.
Funny fact, a movie was made in 1929 about a ship sinking on its maiden voyage after striking an iceberg. The White Star Line was still around, so to avoid a lawsuit, they called the ship (and movie) "Atlantic." I wonder if they were aware of the 1873 disaster involving another White Star Liner.
RamboSixVegas t1_j5jr4v1 wrote
Reply to comment by Jrubas in TIL that Titanic crewman Herbert Pitman made an attempt to row his lifeboat over to rescue people in the water, but was overruled by the other occupants of the boat, who were worried about people swarming them and duly complied. Pitman said that this haunted him throughout his life. by ChadExtra
It happens every time Titanic is spoken about online, and I'm sure it happens in every disaster. People typing in ALLCAPS to get across how USELESS all those people were in the disaster. Stupid, weak and cold-hearted.
How, if their own badass was there, they would've saved everyone through their brilliance, strength, and unflinching good nature.
I'll bet they've never been in a survival situation, let alone make these kinds of decisions, especially not in a position of power in these situations where eyes are looking at them for answers.
Good examples of that happening in this comment section.
RamboSixVegas t1_j5jqhqu wrote
Reply to comment by GoGaslightYerself in TIL that Titanic crewman Herbert Pitman made an attempt to row his lifeboat over to rescue people in the water, but was overruled by the other occupants of the boat, who were worried about people swarming them and duly complied. Pitman said that this haunted him throughout his life. by ChadExtra
There's even some debate over whether Captain Ronstron of Carpathia put his own ship at undue risk when he pushed it to its limits through the same waters that sank a much larger ship. He's lauded because he was successful, where I think he'd be condemned if he wasn't the one to save the passengers in the lifeboats or even damaged his own ship in the process.
RamboSixVegas t1_j9m391r wrote
Reply to comment by monkeypox_69 in TIL Titanic’s Tender (Ship to Shore Ferry), SS Nomadic is the only surviving White Star Line Ship; it has been restored to its original livery (ship’s paint scheme) and serves as a museum. by theAusterityClinic
It's also pretty easy to do. You walk right into the mens' toilets the way you would any modern public bathroom, so you might expect the women's bathroom to be the same. To get to the ladies' toilets, you first enter from the 1st Class area into a lounge exclusive to women that anyone can explore as they would the rest of the ship. Then, you turn left to enter the bathroom proper, which is a room with a sink in the middle with a bench to the left and two toilets to the right.
Men and women alike often went into the lounge then, in "tourist mode," continued walking into the bathroom. Keep in mind the Trust used the recovered original fittings and used recreations when the originals weren't recoverable. The bathrooms really are an attraction in and of themselves. It wasn't uncommon for unintentional voyeurs to be wowed by the decor and belatedly realize they were in a fully functional ladies' bathroom.