RemRose

RemRose t1_j9870io wrote

Reply to comment by tkrr in Nuclear shadow, Nagasaki by allez05

Well considering it was all based on what you said in yours it seems both of us are just assuming shit ay? Either way have a wonderful night :)

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RemRose t1_j980bnw wrote

Reply to comment by tkrr in Nuclear shadow, Nagasaki by allez05

Also i suppose one more thing as someone who has grown up in a military family but not served in any war myself i would absolutely say no i do not understand war, not from a personal level, however i do understand that the slaughtering of millions of innocents even if thats “ what needs” to be done is not something that people should have the mind set of “well serves them right”

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RemRose t1_j97zcca wrote

Reply to comment by tkrr in Nuclear shadow, Nagasaki by allez05

That’s historically wrong but i did enjoy that reading. The scientists that developed the bombs had even advised to not use them to our government who was very adamant to just using them regardless because they felt it would end things. (Which it did) That being said the argument of well we had to cuz the fear of the unknown is also easily passed on simply because if we look slightly into the future we had this thing with russia you know the cold war where both parties could nuke each other anytime and our thought was well if thats gonna happen we have to do it first. Yet that didnt happen even with spys and intel neither party knew every single plan at all times so with that argument of “well we just didnt know what might happen so we bombed them” doesnt hold up cuz then we shoulda just did the same cuz well we dont know. Invasion keeps being brought up like thats even valid. If i can kill millions of “bad guys” and lose nobody on my side why would i send my people to die when thats my option. Regardless we bombed the shit out of people that had nothing to do with the war and no matter how you spin that its not good. War is not good, necessary at times but not good.

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RemRose t1_j96pva2 wrote

Reply to comment by TinKicker in Nuclear shadow, Nagasaki by allez05

Oh yes history would in fact indicate that because if you try to remove a entire island out of existence then absolutely yes they stop their shit. However if i want my baby mother to stop being controlling about my child i should just kill her, if i want my dog to behave i should just beat it to a inch of its life so it cant misbehave anymore if i want the bullying in school to stop i should just shoot it up. The point is yes it worked. Was that necessary and should we just have the thought process of well they killed people too so its cool. No. All of this aside am I suffering from guilt and losing sleep over this no absolutely not but to defend the slaughtering of a race cuz they did bad stuff too is really not how your brain should work.

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RemRose t1_j96m2q0 wrote

Reply to comment by LDarrell in Nuclear shadow, Nagasaki by allez05

No but stopping the war has to be agreed upon by both parties and while the majority of the civilians of japan no longer supported the war effort their government would not sign any form of treaty to end this. Nuking them was a gross extension of power not just once but twice. The proper answer would have been to sanction the fuck out of a island that had burned most bridges to its surrounding neighbors but our answer to the problem was unfortunately to try to cause the most death we could to a bunch of people not involved in a way shape or form because we wanted to see a big boom. So the idea that oh well they deserved it because they killed people too is a very harmful thought process in general.

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RemRose t1_j96jx3h wrote

Reply to comment by LDarrell in Nuclear shadow, Nagasaki by allez05

So the answer to people killing millions of innocent people is to kill millions more? Yeah good thing you aren’t in any sort of position of power huh? Every country has killed innocents in mass numbers so it would be no problem if we just burned your children for those crimes right? With that thought process you are part of those sorts of problems and it would be beneficial if you never had a say in anything ever.

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