Oh yes, the restricted calories method. I don't think that's on the menu for me... I mean look how I worded that. :)

>And yet Christians are obsessed with death to the extent of burying heads in sand. That’s the whole thing about atheism, it’s taking life cold turkey, no opiates involved to placate.

Some have argued that atheism is the opiate for people who cannot bear the thought of a holy, omniscient, omnipresent God to whom they must one day give an account.

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>Atheists see christianity as a death cult, because if this life is of so little value, there’s no reason not to advance to the afterlife right away.

I suppose some atheists may hold that view, if some atheists are ignorant enough about Christianity to think that it ascribes "little value" to life.

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>It’s a worldview exemplified by fear and one that devalues and renders our actual lives meaningless auditions.

Spoken as if by someone utterly unaware of the worldview in question. Christianity holds life in very high regard indeed. Pro-life, one might say.

Since you seem kind of condescening and rude, vs someone interested in discussion, I will go ahead and block you at this point, as I am not interested in that kind of exchange. Peace.

>The goal of a religion isn't to believe the beliefs of that religion? Well, alright.

That isn't what I said. I said:

>The goal of Christianity is not to live forever. Christians believe that everyone does live forever, albeit not in the same place.

>Well good, then I'm glad I never even came close to suggesting that.
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>I'd think "acceptance" does, in fact, suggest that. "Eh, body's broken, what are ya gonna do?

If you actually want to conflate "acknowleding that death is part of life" with "neglecting to fix the machine at all," that is certainly a choice you can make. Seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

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>Isn't that just transhumanism with extra steps?
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>Well, I mean, if the goal is to live forever.

The goal of transhumanism may be to live forever. The goal of Christianity is not to live forever. Christians believe that everyone does live forever, albeit not in the same place.

>The fact that, eventually, you can't fix a machine anymore, and you have to deal with that, doesn't mean that you should neglect fixing the machine at all.

Well good, then I'm glad I never even came close to suggesting that.

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>Isn't that just transhumanism with extra steps?

No.

True. I have no issue with longevity or the study of it. I once checked the Internet for the people with the most longevity. It was the Japanese, but mostly with their diet from the 70's, vs what they eat now, which is somewhat Americanized. So I planned to start eating more fish and rice, but... I never really got around to it.

But your point is well taken, it is incredible what options are available now, and the advances that have been made.

But it doesn't mitigate it, even a fraction of a percent, it just delays it.

If some people see death as a problem to be dealt with (and eventually solved) then I have no issue taking advantage of whatever scientific breakthroughs they might come up with. If they can discover a way to stop our telomeres from fraying, I'll sign right up. But I view death as a necessary part of life. I don't buy into transhumanism, and it seems like this notion may come from that school of thought.

To be fair, as a Christian, I already believe in eternal life, so I have less riding on the notion of "solving" the problem of death than one might have if one believes the grave is the end of consciousness.

If you lived until 400, you would not have solved anything pertaining to death, just delayed it.100% of people would still die, so I mean kudos on the longevity and everything, but making lives longer doesn't actually address death.

Fine. Address the second point then?

In other news, in addition to "reaching clean power by 2035" being an impossible, cataclysmic, and just plain stupid idea, there is actually no need to do it.

Observe the huge reduction in CO2 which occurred when COVID 19 shut down the world. (Or lack thereof.)

https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/

Also of note, 500,000 years ago, CO2 levels were 8 to 20 times higher than they are today, and the global temperature was only about 10 degrees higher than now. Rumor has it that no cars or factories were the cause for the elevated CO2 levels, just as is the case right now.

Jesus was a historical figure. The Bible is not the only document which mentions him. Also, most of his followers went to their deaths versus recanting their faith in Him as God incarnate -so they obviously weren't doing it as a prank, it was something they believed in fully. It is not logical to think that we measure something as important as time in relation to the life of someone who never existed.