Yea, I have an 8yo myself and as I try thinking about planning for his future it's a bit unsettling realizing that I have no idea what the world is even going to be like when he graduates from High School. What kind of jobs will be left for him at that point? No one knows.

I just imagined two cavemen, learning to reliably make fire, saying the same thing to each other.

Lol, well that's not really even that close to fully automated then. There's a Dunkin by my house that has an AI taking orders at the Drive Thru. You pull up, tell the AI what you want, and then humans inside make it for you while you're working your way around to the Drive Thru window. The biggest difference here seems to be that they have conveyor belts delivering the food to people at the McDonalds.

If an AI is its programming, then that's impossible.

You must be meaning that an AI is something different than its programming, but I don't understand what.

I also don't think it has sensors and input channels through which it receives information about the world.

Exactly. AGI with an identical level of intelligence and computational capacity as a human would have significant advantages over humans. Like:

Hardware:

Speed. The brain’s neurons max out at around 200 Hz, while today’s microprocessors (which are much slower than they will be when we reach AGI) run in the GHz range, on the order of 10 million times faster than our neurons. And the brain’s internal communications, which can move at about 120 m/s, are horribly outmatched by a computer’s ability to communicate optically at the speed of light.

Size and storage. The brain is locked into its size by the shape of our skulls, and it couldn’t get much bigger anyway, or the 120 m/s internal communications would take too long to get from one brain structure to another. Computers can expand to any physical size, allowing far more hardware to be put to work, a much larger working memory (RAM), and a longterm memory (hard drive storage) that has both far greater capacity and precision than our own.

Reliability and durability. It’s not only the memories of a computer that would be more precise. Computer transistors are more accurate than biological neurons, and they’re less likely to deteriorate (and can be repaired or replaced if they do). Human brains also get fatigued easily, while computers can run nonstop, at peak performance, 24/7.

Software:

Editability, upgradability, and a wider breadth of possibility. Unlike the human brain, computer software can receive updates and fixes and can be easily experimented on. The upgrades could also span to areas where human brains are weak. Human vision software is superbly advanced, while its complex engineering capability is pretty low-grade. Computers could match the human on vision software but could also become equally optimized in engineering and any other area.

Collective capability. Humans crush all other species at building a vast collective intelligence. Beginning with the development of language and the forming of large, dense communities, advancing through the inventions of writing and printing, and now intensified through tools like the internet, humanity’s collective intelligence is one of the major reasons we’ve been able to get so far ahead of all other species. And computers will be way better at it than we are. A worldwide network of AI running a particular program could regularly sync with itself so that anything any one computer learned would be instantly uploaded to all other computers. The group could also take on one goal as a unit, because there wouldn’t necessarily be dissenting opinions and motivations and self-interest, like we have within the human population.

We're not talking about the field generated by a single PC's CPU. We're talking about the power utilization of what will likely be a server farm. There is a lot more power being used there than what a CPU runs on. I'm pretty confident that if such a thing is physically possible, an ASI would find a way to escape using EM fields. It could just be a matter of waiting for a technician to unwittingly enter the server room with their phone in their pocket. The ASI communicates with the phone and its instructions get carried to the outside world. Or the server farm draws fluctuating levels of power which induce signals coming from the power lines. Of course it could also be the case that it's just flat out physically impossible to get a signal out in any manner whatsoever. That could be true. I'm not willing to gamble on that though, but it sounds like you are.

It's in the quote right above your original comment in this thread: "An additional safeguard, completely unnecessary for potential viruses but possibly useful for a superintelligent AI, would be to place the computer in a Faraday cage; otherwise, it might be able to transmit radio signals to local radio receivers by shuffling the electrons in its internal circuits in appropriate patterns."

Basically, all electric currents generate EM fields. Usually these fields are just "background noise", but an ASI could generate specific currents in its own hardware that would generate specific EM fields which are identical to signals carrying data. Radio signals, wifi, 5G, and the background noise coming from electric currents are all "made of" the same stuff after all.

Yea, I know what an air gap is. A sufficently advanced AI could use EM fields to transmit data wirelessly and overcome an air gap. That's why the other person was talking about a Faraday Cage. A Faraday Cage blocks the propogation of EM waves.

The same way a radio station gets the speakers in your car to make specific sounds even though there's an air gap.

The way you describe it, it sounds a lot like humans.

> The planet is not run by fucking chickens. A child could tell you that.

If you told a child its entire life that the planet was run by chickens, and the child was unable to see the world for itself, guess what the child would tell you?

The child would tell you the planet was run by chickens.

They can't fairly compete. Thats why cybernetics won't be allowed by the sports leagues. Even today they ban a lot of things that would offer an unfair advantage.

Pro sports will be around probably. I think that'll be one of last jobs to go.