ShieldMaiden3

ShieldMaiden3 t1_iueclq4 wrote

It's also an issue of police culture. If the culture, and let people within that culture, supports keeping things the way they are for their own benefit, and they are allowed to continue in those positions, then nothing will change.

Basically, this is a multifaceted problem. No one single solution, by itself, will work. There needs to be worker protections, independent oversight, higher psychological standards (since they were lowered to allow people with combative/abusive personalities to join), higher educational standards (BPD only requires a high school diploma for people who are supposed to enforce and know the law), a requirement for cops to live in the communities they police (or at least in the city limits and within a certain radius from that community), taking welfare checks and non-violent interactions with the unhoused away from the police and giving them to teams of social workers and psychologists (who we need more of) who are far more qualified to deal with such situations, and actively working to increase the community's trust in the police through active engagement with the community.

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ShieldMaiden3 t1_iue7xtg wrote

I get all of that. But, the problem is that in terms of how that plays out practically speaking, not saying anything is basically the same as condoning it. If there were enough cops who came together to say something all together at the same time (like how the police union does with pay and overtime) as publicly as possible, then it'd be much harder to ignore the problem and target the cops who are against the corruption. If nothing is risked, them nothing is gained, and so they are still being complicit in the corruption and further degredation of the society they're supposed to be protecting, whatever their personal views may be.

Again, I completely get your argument, and I even understand the reasons they're not saying anything. But, ignoring the wound only serves to worsen the problem by allowing it to fester and become gangrenous. And there are generally only two solutions once a limb has become mostly gangrenous: 1) do nothing and allow the whole body/person to die, or 2) amputate the necrotic limb and eventually replace it.

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ShieldMaiden3 t1_iucnsgx wrote

False equivalency. A uniform can be taken off, skin cannot. I don't care about cook, I care about the reality of the situation.

Also, I don't hate the cops, but I'm also not going to ignore ongoing systemic issues that exacerbate societal issues.

Police departments are relatively small closed communities, in relation to the populations of the environments in which they exist. Everyone is aware of everyone else's business, to varying degrees, in such small, closed, communities. Even if you don't know the details, you'll still know enough to know that something is up.

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ShieldMaiden3 t1_iucmkzs wrote

How does one separate the cops that aren't actively corrupt, but are silently complicit about said corruption, from the cops that are actively and obviously corrupt? Especially if they never have to face any consequences, because the system protects them, but punishes those who try to blow the whistle?

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