Get terribly wealthy and it becomes much harder.

Imagine being a nobody before getting rich and famous. Everyone you meet is going to know you are rich. There is no 'rich man' school you go through on how to spot the signs.

How is that relevant to this exchange. Read it again.

It literally does. Like your pulling this out of thin air.

Guess which one of us works in the pharmaceutical research business and who doesn't.

The government can afford some research, but it wants to see maximum patient impact.

That means diseases that effect a small percentage of the population get less funding.

However to private investors those diseases can be incredibly lucrative.

So private funds research in those areas more than public. Then overtime (because most of these ventures go nowhere) the successful treatments make their way to the top and get more development.

This is early stage vs late stage research.

The government is more willing to help fund late stage research because its more viable. But without the early stage research there is no late stage.

I've simplified the process but if you did the most basic level of research you would see what I'm saying is true.

What you have is an IDEA, and you are hoping against reality that your idea is true. It simply isn't.

In a private only model sure, it sucks.

but everywhere with public and private that is literally how it works.

Don't "sweet child" me when you clearly have no idea how the system works.

Not all treatments are affordable though.

It's a pipe dream.

A benefit of a private public split is it allows private clinics to spend loads of money on relatively new technology and overtime demonstrate and prove efficacy as well as allow the initial R&D costs to be absorbed by them.

Then once the treatments are affordable they can drop down into the public system.

To say everything must be public immediately ignores the obvious reality that the governments pockets are not infinitely deep and when there is no profit incentive some things just won't get researched.

Take skin grafting as an example. It's cosmetic surgery at the end of the day. A government isn't going to invest in getting people trained for such a procedure.

But private will because people would pay to look 'normal'.

Now that the people are trained on skin grafting and the technology is common, public healthcare gets to take advantage.

You would hurt the overall level of care by being driven by an end goal of wanting everything to be available to everyone.

Sure, can be done but compared to before there would be less procedures possible.

Well now...

Income should have an impact on the level of treatment you can get.

Buuut, income shouldn't stop you from getting a very satisfactory baseline of healthcare.

Are you going to make it illegal for private hospitals to exist?

Everywhere with public healthcare still has private healthcare. The American talking point of either or is dumb.

Your wording gives everything away.

Carnists is not an identity that meat eaters use. We are not activists.

Plenty of people that eat meat haven't thought through all the implications.

Vegan activists pretend they have. That is why it's annoying. A vegan will be the one to challenge the status quo but it's nirmat with forms of deceit.

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Vegans are some of the worst at it.

Obviously it's not a single 'ideaology'

But when people try and argue for environmental conservation, morality of animal slaughter and nutrition all at the same time, they stumble over themselves and make terrible points.

They then refuse to engage and start calling you names.

Depends. This situation can be caused by either debater being close minded.

For example, arguing with a flat earther can make you angry. Not saying you should get angry, but I see it happening.

It's within walking range to his best friend, his 'boating' school and his work place.

In fact, Bikini Bottom seems to be unreliant on cars as identified by the huge lack of car parking spaces.

Damn, my brain just remembered the relief kid me felt when it came back.

Squatters right

Yeah, i watched a video a while back about the procurement process for these electric vehicles and it seemed like some dude essentially abusing the system and getting government contracts to produce ineffective vehicles vs converting off the shelf solutions.

Shhhh, do you hear that?

If you listen closely you can hear the "Cancer is a government hoax" groups finding their footing in the depths of facebook.