SovArya

SovArya t1_iv0ldrc wrote

Reply to comment by someacnt in How to have better arguments by fchung

There is this flat earth documentary that I don't recall anymore but at the end, the flat earthers did this experiment where they tried to see if the lights would be the same from a distance and they had to adjust it in the end because of the sphere shape of our planet.

It made them doubt :)

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SovArya t1_iv0e9c0 wrote

You're not wrong. If people truly have that conviction the only thing we can do is to present it still and then move on. Because who knows, even if the chances of them changing is slim, they could still eventually change their minds. But yes, it's very hard.

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SovArya t1_iuynyps wrote

If you structure your arguments based on logic, and the logic is based on something clear, and fact based, and having such makes it easier to understand; then the other party will most likely agree. Unless only if the other party has a conviction so strange , and such conviction is so strong and biased, and such will causes one to shut out all things; then the other will most likely never change his mind.

If the other person does not follow the truth, and you can't do much about it, and you shouldn't care to much about things beyond your control; then it's not wrong to let it be after you tried.

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SovArya t1_iuyc2ca wrote

Not wrong. Clear thinking is the basis of a healthy mind. Reminds me of Markus Aurelius.

I observe my son, still pretty young learned concepts and ideas from the if then statement. He's not yet learned of myths and metaphors but, the if then allowed him to learn meaning.

And I would tell him stories with morals, made up, so he can understand the cause and effect of things. He would then make it simple to an if then statement.

It's probably not wrong to say, we need the if then logic for meaning and language and clarity.

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SovArya t1_iurpucw wrote

There's the as if principle by Richard wiseman which I like and find useful.

The idea is if your body does the act of the effect you want, you end up as having that effect.

Example. If your tired right now, if you look up at the ceiling, the sky with eyes wide open, 15+ seconds then you will not be tired.

Same if you want to be tired, you can look down 15s and you will be.

Same if you want to feel hyperventilated, you can consciously breathe fast. And if you want to slow your heart rate, you breathe slow.

If you want to be happy, you can smile or laugh.

So many weird things one can do that actually is related to our body's posture and activities.

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SovArya t1_iu3u50g wrote

This kind of information should be front page news.

Want to get healthy. Exercise. No really. Here's the study. And it's just a few minutes of intense exercise a week. Yes? This is free. So please do it.

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SovArya t1_ityfzuw wrote

Emotions are the effect of the chemicals. Our will is the reaction to not act based on those emotions or consciously use the emotions to do something.

Here's an example. When tired, look up with eyes open for 15seconds, you'll be awake and alert. Consciously choose to do that when you can take advantage of how said act affects you physically.

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SovArya t1_itx44sd wrote

We are animals is not wrong. Animals has levels of intelligence is not wrong. Example. Ants do what they are programmed to do, and react based on instinct. However smarter animals like dolphins are able to appreciate pleasure. Smart still are killer whales who are able to discern not to bother humans.

If evolution is not wrong or whatever process came about where we are able to picture what we do outside of mere program pattern reaction to stimulus, then free will is exercised the moment we stop doing something we think is not proper.

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