More than any other sport, a football player's success or failure is dependent on the situation they're placed in.

I'm a Browns fan in my 30s. My dad is in his 60s, and he first got interested in the Browns when he saw them win their 1964 championship. So we feel your pain.

Surviving the first round and getting creamed in round 2 would be a historically unprecedented level of success for the Leafs.

I don't have to imagine because I watched us lose to one against Pittsburgh for 17 years.

Guess we'll find out in the fall.

Wishful thinking. I know everyone wants to declare the Deshaun Watson contract a failure already, but just because you want him to fail doesn't mean he will.

Yeah but my point is that that's happened many times in the NFL before. Hell, for 17 years I watched us lose every year to a rapist QB, and our other rival's best player was a murderer.

The fact that everyone makes this exact joke about the Browns whenever any football player gets in trouble for anything kinda feels to me like how people think that Catholicism is the only religion that protects sex predators. It really lets everyone else off the hook, despite the fact that they all have the same problem.

Same. Everyone already hates us so at this point, there's no reason to worry about our reputation. I want to win.