I do agree that the whole right-left thing does not really fit the 21st century at all anymore.
I also think socialist thinking has at its core an idea of equality, dignity, solidarity among all humans.
Anything nationalist, even more so fascist, and especially Nazis have at their core the idea of one "people" being superior to the rest of mankind and derive social rights or even a historical obligation from that, to subdue, or in the case the Nazis to even exterminate other peoples.
For me that's the main difference, and from that different policies are derived.
And some random thoughts I couldn't control anymore, sorry for that 🤪
The capitalist point of view is just something different; it starts with the assumption that following egoistic objectives magically produces the best possible economic situation for all, while the state should keep itself out of almost everything.
In a way, the perfect capitalist market nirvana is almost anarchy - no rules, the strongest survives, the other must blame themselves.
(Obviously, Stalin perverted the original ideas of socialism to arrive at something pretty much indistinguishable from fascism; even the reference to the Russian people being superior was used later - and in present days again, in the most appalling way. Stalin was in fact a sort of sick kind of role model for the Nazis in "techniques" of deporting masses of people in the late 1930s.
That's why neither the Nazis nor any form of actually existing communism have anything to do with the spirit of Socialism.)
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I do agree that the whole right-left thing does not really fit the 21st century at all anymore. I also think socialist thinking has at its core an idea of equality, dignity, solidarity among all humans. Anything nationalist, even more so fascist, and especially Nazis have at their core the idea of one "people" being superior to the rest of mankind and derive social rights or even a historical obligation from that, to subdue, or in the case the Nazis to even exterminate other peoples.
For me that's the main difference, and from that different policies are derived.
And some random thoughts I couldn't control anymore, sorry for that 🤪 The capitalist point of view is just something different; it starts with the assumption that following egoistic objectives magically produces the best possible economic situation for all, while the state should keep itself out of almost everything. In a way, the perfect capitalist market nirvana is almost anarchy - no rules, the strongest survives, the other must blame themselves.
(Obviously, Stalin perverted the original ideas of socialism to arrive at something pretty much indistinguishable from fascism; even the reference to the Russian people being superior was used later - and in present days again, in the most appalling way. Stalin was in fact a sort of sick kind of role model for the Nazis in "techniques" of deporting masses of people in the late 1930s. That's why neither the Nazis nor any form of actually existing communism have anything to do with the spirit of Socialism.)