Go to moss Glen falls to work up the appetite then just order icecream, no tour.

Haha just because you say it’s that way doesn’t mean your correct. These people exist and they always will do you will have to deal with that. Biologically the definition is gamete psychologically the definition is different. I can get you some sources on that if you want.

Oh no again I believe that female identifying individuals should have spaces free of male identifying individuals. No I don’t think this should be determined by their gamete production.

No it is your definition and it’s not backed by the science period.

Again the “biology” isn’t that cut and dry it never has been.

But let me play your game, adopting your definition of “biological sex” no I don’t think there should be a place that discriminates like that other than your own house hold.

I think physical competition is not really essential so yes I think anyone should be able to compete in what ever class of any sport they want. If sports are the hill you die on in this topic then that presents to me that you don’t grasp the actual hardship of existing as a person off the central curve of humanity. Trans individuals aren’t gaining anything you don’t have in life when it comes to survival.

Yeah not really. I literally answered your question. The trans community is not very big so that 1% really matters in this situation. You just want excuse for you to be correct which you aren’t in this situation

Again “born male or female” on a biological level isn’t a yes or no situation. Biology is much messier than that. And cognitively within development the internal sense of self isn’t determined by what gamete you produce. Nope that’s not what’s happening here you aren’t the victim in this conversation. I’m arguing using scientific knowledge and first hand experience, what are you arguing with?

But here is my answer. I believed there should be spaces for female identifying individuals to be separate from male identifying individuals. No I don’t believe that should be determined by the type of gamete produced. I have trans people in my life I know and love and I know the people in my life would be safer in their company than with someone who makes arguments like the one you are trying to make. Yes I am generalizing you.

No I literally just gave you the current scientific theory of those concepts. In a semantically correct way. Again I will refer to what I just said I don’t think your personal definition lines up with the biological and psychosocial definitions.

I believe having a space for female identifying individuals is important. But I don’t believe our definitions of “female” are the same.

Good those are the correct definitions under the current biological understanding. But what that doesn’t say is that these individuals present with any specific appearance or behavioral attributes attributed to either sex. The reason for that is because within physical development there are a whole host of processes that must occur for the complete differentiation from female to male sex characteristics. With any of these steps disrupted you may have an individual that is phenotypically presenting different then what raw genetics may suggest. Eliciting the point that sex determination isn’t binary on a developmental basis at the biological level. This is confounded with the psychological development of a human beings having both biological and environmental roots. We just established that genetics and physiological states can result in a whole host of variability in what can phenotypically present as “male” or “female”, when that is combined with the psychosocial aspects of “male” and “female” gender roles in today’s society you are left with a spectra of behavior prescribe and ascribed by both biology and environment. Within this spectra people may see and internalize patterns they see as a gender binary but this is a generalization and doesn’t fully apply to the entirety of the population. So when you say “male and female” it is predicated on your own internal understanding of this topic which isn’t necessarily complete.

And I’m responding to your question with the reality that what you asked isn’t a black or white question as you have it framed or desire an answer for. And if you think it’s a black or white question then you are coming from a place of ignorance not bigotry. I work under the idea that most people have good intentions but are misguided by a lack of edification on a topic and that if presented with the information they can make a proper logical conclusion.

What is the biological definition of those two words?

I may be mistaken but I don’t think you understand what male/female means. And I can absolutely guarantee that you don’t understand it on a biological level. I think your point is ignorant not bigoted because bigoted would suggest understanding.

I never said you’re a bigot but I don’t think you fully grasp the scope of this topic and I’m happy to help if you want!

If you want to have a real discussion about this reach out. Happy to help!

Not really true in all cases some dogs are bread to be outside all winter and they much prefer it to being hot inside a house.

Tbh a lot of working dogs prefer to be outside, especially cold weather dogs. I’m not saying this is the case here but if you had say a malimute they are way more comfortable in the snow then in a 70degree house. Again probs not the issue here but sometimes it is the right way to treat dogs.

Sure but there needs to be cheaper options available. Im being priced out of eating. And I make almost every single meal I eat.

Bad bot. Get that out of here.

Thanks! I’m looking for a good climb, and some trees if possible!

Thanks!

Not asking for the best, just good options to get out and have some fun this season. Why do people feel like letting others have fun is going to take away from their experience? It’s back country, it’s not like every person who skis has the desire to climb up hill.

Sweet thanks!!

It’s so fun, definitely going to hit that a lot this year!

I need to try that!